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01-09-2019, 08:38 AM | #76 | |
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Re: SEA HORNET Clone from CHINA!!
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01-09-2019, 10:59 AM | #77 |
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Yes you could. However, one would expect/assume that a reputable manufacturer would make sure issues like this (and the trigger spring) would be addressed before releasing the speargun to the public.
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01-09-2019, 02:07 PM | #78 |
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There are already rubber plugs in place, but the water gets in the inch or so of tube where the screws penetrate. If the entire tube filled up with water then the guns would sink like stones, but are actually pretty good floaters. The reason we don't want saltwater in the tube ends is it can rot out the alloy over time. How watertight the plugs are only time will tell and how far down the guns are taken.
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01-09-2019, 02:25 PM | #79 | |
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P.S. Out of curiosity I bought one of these and it is quite well made, but molded from some hard shiny plastic that reminds me of unmodified styrene. The steel tipped (you screw them on) arrows are made of the same stuff and a grabber device holds their nocked tails. If the tails snap off then the gun shoots which could happen at any time. The same eBay seller was selling these as was selling the Sea Hornet clones. Last edited by popgun pete; 01-09-2019 at 02:47 PM. |
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01-09-2019, 02:29 PM | #80 |
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For those with long memories here is what the original line drop handle timber gun parts looked like.
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01-09-2019, 06:46 PM | #81 |
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I don’t think I was dealing with the actual manufacturer of the speargun and that is likely why my requests to modify the trigger spring fell on deaf ears. As far a distribution, I was looking forward to selling the speargun had they been able to rectify the design issues. However, once I knew those changes were not going to happen, I gave up. Also, I was not likely to get exclusive distribution in the USA market so anytime they decided to sell “direct to consumer” at a cheaper price than me (as they are now) it would have caused big issues for me.
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01-09-2019, 08:13 PM | #82 | |
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Basically there is a good quality gun there just waiting to get out. Moreover "Sea Hornet" Australia have completely abdicated the scene as the owner has gone from bad to worse on business decisions. Old Chinese Proverb: first generation creates the wealth, second generation manages it, third generation loses it! Last edited by popgun pete; 01-09-2019 at 10:57 PM. |
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01-10-2019, 04:01 PM | #83 | |
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03-26-2019, 04:21 PM | #84 |
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These guns are still being sold as when my browser failed to load up the page for a gun which seems to have been subsequently withdrawn from sale (an "old skool" pneumatic gun from the Ukraine) this appeared instead.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Shooter-...d=163571228934 I have failed to keep an eye of these, but they seem to be offered in small batches of 3 or 4 guns at a time. Also other sizes like this one https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Shooter-....c100005.m1851, all from the same seller in Beijing, China. The number of guns in circulation must be growing and all have that no good trigger spring made of ordinary stainless steel that ain't fit for the job. |
03-26-2019, 05:13 PM | #85 | |
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03-26-2019, 11:24 PM | #86 |
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One could alert the authorities to potentially dangerous weapons being distributed to the public, but we don't want a speargun witch hunt as who knows where that might end up! Pandora's Box and all that with loopy zealots fervently denouncing spearfishers as no better than baby seal clubbers and axe murderers. Maybe it will be prudent to inform the seller by pointing him to this thread and spur them to fix it. I have already changed the springs in the guns that I bought as the risk was too great.
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03-27-2019, 06:54 AM | #87 | |
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03-27-2019, 11:34 AM | #88 |
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I will contact the seller and send him this thread reference and my own expert commentary. The prospect of a loss of business and legal action by the State for selling potentially flawed weapons will be a concentrator of attention. The fix is easy and the main problem will be how many guns have already gone into the market, as for the rest they need to reclaim their stock and replace the defective springs. For resourceful divers in the West that encounter any problems they only need search for answers and they will surely find this thread. We do not want officialdom intruding at this stage as a more general sweep of underwater weapons may prove to be uncomfortable as bureaucrats decide whether to put all homemade guns "through the hoops". Some stones are best left unturned. If you disagree with these sentiments then just query someone who has been “through the hoops” and ask Jay Riffe when a careless diver shot his instructor in the back with one of Jay’s guns. His quality product and guns like the Ocean Rhino discussed here are completely thought out and made by experienced people who know what they are doing, not by a bunch of Chinese looking over an imported weapon and thinking that they know how to copy it.
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03-27-2019, 05:14 PM | #89 |
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Sent to the eBay seller who is the conduit for these guns.
I have purchased two of these spearguns and you should be aware that the biasing springs in the trigger mechanism make them very unreliable as they can jam and neither load nor fire depending on when the jam occurs. I have replaced these leaf metal springs myself as I completely understand the trigger design, but others will not and you could get into serious problems for legal liability if a gun misfires when least expected and kills or badly injures somebody. The leaf springs you use now are of the wrong type of metal and length so you need to make changes otherwise you risk your spearguns being seized by the authorities and banned. This is a friendly warning to save you from very big trouble. The attached photos show what you need to do. For guns already sold you need to send a message to owners and they can have them fixed with replacement springs. If the guns cause trouble then we collectively may also experience the backlash, so better to get this fixed without trashing the sport in general. |
03-27-2019, 05:34 PM | #90 |
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I am not an engineer but IMO the spring is too long and not made from the proper type of stainless steel, it should be “spring stainless”. Also the thickness or gauge of the steel seems a little thin.
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