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Old 05-17-2013, 04:36 PM   #1
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How do you rig your breakaway setup?

Hey SB,

I was hoping to get some input as to how people are rigging their break away setups for hunting pelagics in blue water.

With my current setup, I feel that my range and "punch" is being impacted by the way I have my setup rigged.

I am using a Riffe Standard #3 (5/16 shaft w ice pick) with (3) 5/8 x16mm bands and I have a 300LB mono loop through the pigtail swivel then am clipping my float line to the loop. (kind of hard to explain see picture).

So when I fire the gun I am left with just the gun in my hands and the shaft is attached to my float line. I am using a Neptonics 75 foot float line with one hard float to a Neptonics 6 foot bungee attached to a Riffe 2 ATM float.

I feel like that as I am swimming and diving, the wind is constantly taking my float setup to the max length so when I pull the trigger the shaft is essentially having to pull the float setup as it heads towards its target.

I was thinking of just attaching the shaft as normal to the gun and then clipping the float line to my gun via a spectra loop. That being said, I am thinking that their are more "fail" points with the setup like this and if something were to fail I would lose my whole rig.

Am I doing something wrong? I was thinking if I kept the setup like this I need to get in the habit of tugging at my float line before a shot to give it some slack? Float line too short?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for your time.
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:59 PM   #2
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Re: How do you rig your breakaway setup?

I can't really see in your picture. Are you using a double wrap of shooting line? Or are you attaching the floatline to only one wrap of shooting line?
If it's double wrapped I don't think the floatline will affect the shot. That's about the max range for that gun. (16 feet or so?) I have a the same gun. Three 5/8 bands is a lot of power. It comes from the factory with only two 9/16 bands with the 5/16 shaft and double flopper tip (24 inch I believe)

I also have a Baja Plus. I did what you're thinking. I attached the floatline to a loop in the hole on the butt of the gun. Shot a 145 lb jewfish (they're legal in Belize) that dragged the gun down over the reef. Beat it up a bit. But Riffes are tough guns.
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:06 PM   #3
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Re: How do you rig your breakaway setup?

Yea you should have two and a half wraps. It should not shot past that. If your not hunting monster tuna you need just one float with a bungee.

Also to get your best shooting with that gun I think a 9/32nd shaft with 3 9/16th bands would be the way to go. I'd step down to 200 or 250 mono as well.

The gun you have is borderline for bw. Get close and get a good holding shot. I would also recomend a good slip tip like a mori with spectra.
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:12 PM   #4
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Re: How do you rig your breakaway setup?

Hey Hank49 thanks for the response. The shooting line is double wrapped. Nice fish! Did you like the other style better by attaching a loop through the butt of the gun?
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:34 PM   #5
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Re: How do you rig your breakaway setup?

Hey Ryfish, thanks so much that is the advice I was looking for! I lost a trophy Walu yesterday, not going to let it happen again. Going to get rid of the hard float and change the shaft. Is the Mori far superior to the ice pick? Everyone has been telling me go with the Mori.
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:22 PM   #6
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Re: How do you rig your breakaway setup?

Not sure what a Walu is?

I'd change the set up you are using. Lengthn the shooting line so that it comes to the back of your gun and use a much smaller bungee type system to connect to your Line release. A Heavy weight 2" O-Ring can work or a tied loop of 1/8" bungee. This way you floatline attachment will not be infront of your face. Another thing you can do to keep the floatline on the back of your gun is to bring a roll of Electrical Tape with you and give 1-2 wraps around your floatline on the back of the gun. It will easily tear off when necessary. For Bluewater I like to rig a 400lb Shooting line with a 5/16" Shaft. For a 9/32" or for smaller fish I'll use 300Lb.

When I do use a Floatline, I swim with my float on the surface. This way I have slack when I dive down. If you line is already outstretched when you begin you dive.. that is your problem.

This being said, I don't like to use a Float for Bluewater.. I do bring along a Flasher Float, but I prefer to use a Big Reel. (I don't shoot really big fish) Sometimes I'll combine using a big Reel and a smaller Float and Floatline for Bluewater. The Reel is attached on a Slider to the Floatline.

I've lost entire Buoy and Bungee setups to bigger fish.. gone. Never seen again. So, if my gun had been attached. It would have been gone too.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:15 PM   #7
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:34 PM   #8
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Re: How do you rig your breakaway setup?

Thanks for all the responses everyone, I really appreciate it. Behslayer thanks for those suggestions, the electrical tape is an easy fix for now as I do not have access to different bands and shafts at the moment. I am out in Fiji, Walu is the "prize" fish of the Fijians, it is essentially a Spanish Mackerel. Definitely need to move that floatline to the back of the gun.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:14 PM   #9
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Re: How do you rig your breakaway setup?

or you can use a larger size rubberband its a little less messy than the electrical tape.
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:43 AM   #11
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Hey Hank49 thanks for the response. The shooting line is double wrapped. Nice fish! Did you like the other style better by attaching a loop through the butt of the gun?
I landed that fish using that system, but as Jon (Behslayer) said, you do run the risk of losing the whole gun and rig. I don't do blue water often, but when I do I use a breakaway with two wraps. And I use a much bigger gun than you do but with the same bands. I would think you're going to lose accuracy with that much kick on that small gun (Riffe C3X).

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