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Old 04-15-2016, 03:08 PM   #1
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Sit in vs Sit on?

Which would be better for spearfishing?
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Old 04-15-2016, 03:28 PM   #2
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Re: Sit in vs Sit on?

Sit on

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Old 04-15-2016, 08:42 PM   #3
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Sit on is the ONLY way to go. Sit in will be extremely difficult to get in and out of with out swamping and sinking it.
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Old 04-16-2016, 09:41 PM   #4
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Re: Sit in vs Sit on?

sit in is a bit more of a hassle to get in and out of the water from, but two of my buddies have used them (one still does). The bigger bummer is finding a good place to stow all your gear with a sit in boat- and how to attach it all if you do dump it. FWIW I use two ankle straps from (broken) surfboard leashes to lash guns to the kayak that are too long to fit into a hatch. Take a fin key and remove the ankle strap from the (snapped) rope and thread a leash string through the hole in the swivel and an tie down spot on the boat- just remember to orient the spear tip to the rear of the boat.
But I agree hands down that a sit on top is the only way to go!

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Old 04-21-2016, 04:43 PM   #5
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Re: Sit in vs Sit on?

definitely sit on top. you want to be totally waterproof and unsinkable, especially coming in through waves. I know hot shot sit-in kayaker surf some significant waves, but they aren't your average diver coming in tired and chilled after a few hours in the water and loaded with fish/abs, anchor, gun, or other gear.
and with a sit on top, you can't have too many short ropes with clips on the end. clip everything down on the way in for sure
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Old 04-21-2016, 11:49 PM   #6
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Before I became a diver I was an avid kayaker. I had paddled a couple of short, fat, slow sit on tops and compared to my long, fast sit in's, they were terrible. As a result, when I started diving, I really wanted to make use of my sea kayak. Fortunately a buddy, who was a very good freediver and a better kayaker than I, tried using his yak for diving. Tried outriggers, paddle floats, etc. His conclusion was it just wasn't the tool for the job.

I followed his advice. I now use an OC Scupper Pro, which is about as close to sit in kayak feel and performance as I could find in a sit on top. I absolutely love it for diving and fishing! And I used to turn up my nose at sit on tops, as they're not "real" kayaks...

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Before I became a diver I was an avid kayaker. I had paddled a couple of short, fat, slow sit on tops and compared to my long, fast sit in's, they were terrible. As a result, when I started diving, I really wanted to make use of my sea kayak. Fortunately a buddy, who was a very good freediver and a better kayaker than I, tried using his yak for diving. Tried outriggers, paddle floats, etc. His conclusion was it just wasn't the tool for the job.

I followed his advice. I now use an OC Scupper Pro, which is about as close to sit in kayak feel and performance as I could find in a sit on top. I absolutely love it for diving and fishing! And I used to turn up my nose at sit on tops, as they're not "real" kayaks...

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Old 04-22-2016, 03:27 AM   #8
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same but also can't find this yet in us
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Old 04-22-2016, 03:31 AM   #9
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Re: Sit in vs Sit on?

Just a day after my first post on this question, I had a guy give me an Ocean Kayak Scupper Pro. It's been sitting outside awhile and a little sun faded but overall in pretty good condition. I can't wait to get out there.
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Old 04-22-2016, 04:17 PM   #10
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Just a day after my first post on this question, I had a guy give me an Ocean Kayak Scupper Pro. It's been sitting outside awhile and a little sun faded but overall in pretty good condition. I can't wait to get out there.
That's great!
Now, a little about the Scupper pro. It's a bit narrower than most other boats, so feels initially tippy. That means it lacks primary stability. The good news is that as a result it has good secondary stability. That means you'll have better control of the boat than the waves will. Once you get used to it, you'll appreciate it.
The scupper's also a pretty fast little boat for it's size, meaning you can cruise at a decent pace with little effort.
As to the sun damage, I use a product called, "303 aerospace protectant". It's a legit, spray on sunscreen for plastic stuff and works really well for plastic boats. If it's not available out on your island, I'd try and order a couple bottles of the stuff and hit the scupper good.
Hey congrats on the boat!
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Old 04-22-2016, 07:12 PM   #11
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Thanks Ron for the info. I'll put the 303 on my list. I've got to order, anchor, rope, spare bungies, snaps, hull epoxy, etc. I wonder why they quit making this Kayak?
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Old 06-03-2016, 03:17 PM   #12
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Definitely agree with the SOT suggestion. Too cumbersome getting in and out of a SINK. Plus you're not flooding your 'yak with water every time you get back in since it will drain out through the scupper holes. Good luck with the Scupper Pro. Let us know how you like it!
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Old 06-04-2016, 01:36 AM   #13
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I'm slowly getting the Scupper Pro customized extra clips, bungees, etc. and the more I go, the more I realize that this is an amazing boat. This is my first rodeo at this stuff, but this Kayak makes me look like a pro, ha ha.
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