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Old 07-15-2019, 08:29 PM   #31
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Re: Kimera slip tip

I shoot a 85cm and 115cm pathos rollers.
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Old 07-18-2019, 03:30 PM   #32
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Slip tip is solid. Only gripe is the line they give you is shit. I might crimp stiff spectra to replace it or something.
I use 1/16" 7-strand stainless cable. Unwind the end leaving 3 and 4 on a side. Push each end thru the eye in opposite directions. Then wind the cable back together until hitting the fork. Then wind the remainder into a small pigtail and put a crimp over the pigtail end to keep it from unraveling. You can't tell that it was ever taken apart and it is much easier/thinner than splicing. Here is a video of winding a large cable. The thin stuff doesn't have a fiber core and I don't double braid the tail or put a nut on the end like they do. I just wind up a single pigtail and put a 1/16" ID crimp tube over it and crimp.

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Old 07-20-2019, 08:39 AM   #33
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I use 1/16" 7-strand stainless cable. Unwind the end leaving 3 and 4 on a side. Push each end thru the eye in opposite directions. Then wind the cable back together until hitting the fork. Then wind the remainder into a small pigtail and put a crimp over the pigtail end to keep it from unraveling. You can't tell that it was ever taken apart and it is much easier/thinner than splicing. Here is a video of winding a large cable. The thin stuff doesn't have a fiber core and I don't double braid the tail or put a nut on the end like they do. I just wind up a single pigtail and put a 1/16" ID crimp tube over it and crimp.

https://youtu.be/jsfll_7CdEQ


I donít care for cable. Our fish donít justify the need. Went with stiff dynema. Testing today

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Old 07-20-2019, 08:41 AM   #34
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Re: Kimera slip tip

Other upgrade I did was drilling a shaft to barely fit a flopper pin. I donít care for the thing they provide. Prefer a flopper pin bent in a slight crescent shape
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Old 07-29-2019, 03:13 AM   #35
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I donít care for cable. Our fish donít justify the need. Went with stiff dynema. Testing today
Looks nice! I use cable mainly because it is much thinner and thus can penetrate thru thicker fish without as much friction. The crimp around the single 'tag end' vs. both cables after weaving is also much thinner.
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Old 07-29-2019, 02:52 PM   #36
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Other upgrade I did was drilling a shaft to barely fit a flopper pin. I donít care for the thing they provide. Prefer a flopper pin bent in a slight crescent shape
Noticed that. Both pins for both tips (7mm & 8mm) they sent with mine were too loose and I used a bit of epoxy to keep them in place instead of the superglue they provided. Included spectra was clearly lower quality and started to wear quickly.

Have only gotten to test it on big calicos so far, but the Customer Service I received from Kimera after USPS "lost" my first order was beyond disappointing (IMO based on my interactions with the Kimera team I don't believe it was actually ever sent). Took over a month to get my order and I'm located in CA where they're based out of.
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Old 07-29-2019, 02:57 PM   #37
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Noticed that. Both pins for both tips (7mm & 8mm) they sent with mine were too loose and I used a bit of epoxy to keep them in place instead of the superglue they provided. Included spectra was clearly lower quality and started to wear quickly.



Have only gotten to test it on big calicos so far, but the Customer Service I received from Kimera after USPS "lost" my first order was beyond disappointing (IMO based on my interactions with the Kimera team I don't believe it was actually ever sent). Took over a month to get my order and I'm located in CA where they're based out of.


Took them 3 weeks to get me a package that weighs less then an ounce. Itís certainly okay, but I think they have a lot to improve on. As I use this more Iím not as enthusiastic about this tip. I placed a perfect shot on a striped bass 34-38Ē fish in the 20# range from 4í out. Fish came off. I am 99% it was a tip malfunction that cost me that fish.
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Old 07-30-2019, 02:31 AM   #38
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I have used Biller slip tips on fish to around 4 feet long, specifically the PK-312 mounted on a regular spear rather than on a pole spear. The solid slip tip slips off after penetrating and is held by the stainless cable, not a flimsy flopper pin. The other real advantage is that the fish is held by the cable with the tip at 90 degrees. Thus the spear is no longer in the fish and won't get bent.

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http://www.abbiller.com/wp-content/t...ccessories.png

Available here:
http://www.abbiller.com/products/pole-spears/

Depending on your spear shaft thread, you may have to use the regular speargun tip, the ST-312:
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Old 08-29-2019, 09:11 PM   #39
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Re: Kimera slip tip

A mod that may be worth considering with a pierced flopper tail holding lightly on a third pin in the shaft.


You could curve the transverse pin "horns" forwards or head them up slightly. A third pin sticking upwards may increase stability of the flying tip with the flopper a sprung fit between the three pins. This would hold the flopper axially on the shaft, but would mean accurate location of the pins and the third pin hole in the flopper. Easier to do with a jig and a drill press to have the holes in the right orientation to each other. Rear of the flopper would be slightly turned upwards (not shown) and the third pin would not be a tight fit in the flopper hole so that the flopper could be tipped up and off the shaft as it reversed back through the fish.

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Old 08-30-2019, 08:20 AM   #40
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A mod that may be worth considering with a pierced flopper tail holding lightly on a third pin in the shaft.


You could curve the transverse pin "horns" forwards or head them up slightly. A third pin sticking upwards may increase stability of the flying tip with the flopper a sprung fit between the three pins. This would hold the flopper axially on the shaft, but would mean accurate location of the pins and the third pin hole in the flopper. Easier to do with a jig and a drill press to have the holes in the right orientation to each other. Rear of the flopper would be slightly turned upwards (not shown) and the third pin would not be a tight fit in the flopper hole so that the flopper could be tipped up and off the shaft as it reversed back through the fish.


I started with the crescent facing forward first shot turned it right around.

Between the stiff dynema and using rubber bands to hold the dynema right to the shaft this thing doesnít fall off anymore and the only time it doesnít always engage is when I plow it deep into the sand shooting a flatfish.

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Old 09-30-2019, 01:56 AM   #41
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Re: Kimera slip tip

It appears that Rob Allen has a three locating point slip tip which you can see in action here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDpYyZxj3Uc
In fact there is even a patent on this arrangement.
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:53 PM   #42
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Re: Kimera slip tip

Another video of the Drop Barb with more explanation.
https://youtu.be/Y0NUEVAP9Hw

Check out the cavitation behind a shaft exiting the gun at high velocity.
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