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Old 08-23-2019, 01:28 PM   #1
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Installing a loading notch into wood gun?

I have an Abellan Denton 120 I'd like to screw a loading tab/cheater tab so I can use some Rob Allen shafts I have that don't have rest tabs on them. I'm sure others have done this so I'd like to see what works best.

Was thinking of using this - https://neptonics.com/product/line-anchor/

Am I safe drilling into the top of the stock (on the side that does not have the shooting line / line release)? I'm not familiar working on wood - drill holes , screw on the tab with SS screws and I'm done or are there any other steps I am missing?

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Old 08-23-2019, 02:52 PM   #2
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Re: Installing a loading notch into wood gun?

You'll want to put it somewhere the bands/wishbones won't catch it when you shoot. I've seen guns with mid-stock cheater tabs before, just be mindful of the placement. As far as installation, just predrill the holes a bit smaller than the diameter of the screws the dip the screws in oil, preferably teak oil, and screw them in.


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I had an idea for how to do this on a big gun I built last year but didn't end up trying it. You might be interested. My plan was to drill a 1/4" hole at about a 45° angle where I wanted the rest tab to be, then install a magnet inside the hollow AR-15 handle I was using. Then I could insert a stainless 1/4" pin into the hole when I needed to load, then remove the pin and snap it onto the magnet inside my handle. Seemed like it could work, I just never went through with it. Would be even better if you installed a 1/4" ID stainless steel sleeve in that hole so that the pin slid into the steel sleeve instead of just wood.
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Old 08-23-2019, 03:18 PM   #3
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Re: Installing a loading notch into wood gun?

I ordered this one for my GF;

https://neptonics.com/product/shark-fin-line-anchor/
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Old 08-23-2019, 03:21 PM   #4
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Re: Installing a loading notch into wood gun?

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Was thinking of using this - https://neptonics.com/product/line-anchor/
Yes, that is exactly what you want. They also make a "sharks fin" trust me, it's NOT what you want! I learned the hard way.
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Old 08-23-2019, 04:54 PM   #5
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Re: Installing a loading notch into wood gun?

Those Neptonics gadgets are line anchors and band anchors (for rollerguns) respectively, you need to keep the top deck clear of obstructions as in the heat of the moment it will be all too easy to send the wishbones crashing into it. A removable pin is used on some guns whereas on the “Requin Flottante” a disappearing hook was released by a forward trigger. When you pull the sliding trigger the hook or cran pops up, when you let it go the hook disappears into the barrel. As the illustration shows when you are gripping the forward handle you are pulling the trigger which raises the hook and have a short reach to the wishbones with the bands slack. As soon as you release the front grip the band tension keeps the hook up and when you have taken the last wishbone off the hook then it descends back into the barrel. Why this forward handle? Well the "Requin Flottante" was 2 meters long and being a eurogun it had no cocking stock!
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Re: Installing a loading notch into wood gun?

I mount a spare shaft to the port side of my gun and a loading tab to the starboard SIDE of the gun...NO PROBLEMS!
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I mount a spare shaft to the port side of my gun and a loading tab to the starboard SIDE of the gun...NO PROBLEMS!
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You'll want to put it somewhere the bands/wishbones won't catch it when you shoot. I've seen guns with mid-stock cheater tabs before, just be mindful of the placement. As far as installation, just predrill the holes a bit smaller than the diameter of the screws the dip the screws in oil, preferably teak oil, and screw them in.


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I had an idea for how to do this on a big gun I built last year but didn't end up trying it. You might be interested. My plan was to drill a 1/4" hole at about a 45° angle where I wanted the rest tab to be, then install a magnet inside the hollow AR-15 handle I was using. Then I could insert a stainless 1/4" pin into the hole when I needed to load, then remove the pin and snap it onto the magnet inside my handle. Seemed like it could work, I just never went through with it. Would be even better if you installed a 1/4" ID stainless steel sleeve in that hole so that the pin slid into the steel sleeve instead of just wood.
316 ss isn't magnetic, 304 and 818 only slightly so, so I wouldn't count on a magnet to hold them. "Another beautiful idea brutalized by a vicious gang of facts"-author unknown.

I like the idea of a removable tab, however. Maybe a threaded sleeve or insert imbedded in the wood with a similar one in the bottom of the handle. A pin could be fabricated with matching threads on the bottom half- just screw it in the side of the gun when you wanted the tab, and in the handle when you didn't. Like the others said, just keep it away from the loaded bands.
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Re: Installing a loading notch into wood gun?

Appreciate the input all.

Somebody has got to have done this successfully- any pictures of it done?
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Appreciate the input all.

Somebody has got to have done this successfully- any pictures of it done?
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316 ss isn't magnetic, 304 and 818 only slightly so, so I wouldn't count on a magnet to hold them. "Another beautiful idea brutalized by a vicious gang of facts"-author unknown.

I like the idea of a removable tab, however. Maybe a threaded sleeve or insert imbedded in the wood with a similar one in the bottom of the handle. A pin could be fabricated with matching threads on the bottom half- just screw it in the side of the gun when you wanted the tab, and in the handle when you didn't. Like the others said, just keep it away from the loaded bands.

Aha....had not considered that! I'm still wanting to try it on my own gun, I can only load it 3 or 4 times before my day is ruined.
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Aha....had not considered that! I'm still wanting to try it on my own gun, I can only load it 3 or 4 times before my day is ruined.
Pins have a habit of being dropped, better to secure it to the gun if you can on a line of some sort.
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