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Old 08-28-2017, 07:18 PM   #91
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Re: Crimping stiff spectra

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On the subject of crimping spectra. I know it's not pretty, but on my own equipment I've used a simple overhand knot on Spectra/Dyneema to shaft connection and landed a few thousand lbs of Wahoo, King Mackerel, Emperor, Mu, etc using that set up.
I have never pool tested any effect on accuracy but it's pretty low profile. There's also the added advantage of being able to pull the knot so it has a little slack and actually trails behind shaft if you want or to use this ability to micro adjust the tension of your shooting line or so that you can use with a Euro set up. Quite simple too in that you can cut off your knot and re-tie one literally with your gloves on in the water if need be. I've never. ever. had my line or the knot break.
To be clear, this is simply running the dyneema through your shaft, and then tying an overhand knot which lies on one side of the shaft.
are you using overhand stopper on shaft with the mono core spectra Jon?
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:46 AM   #92
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Re: Crimping stiff spectra

Is there any noticeable difference between the 1.4mm or 1.6mm nylon coated Catchall cable from the Neptonics 1/16"/1.6mm cable? Neptonics cable has been my go-to for a while and I'm a huge fan.
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Old 08-18-2019, 08:46 PM   #93
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any updates on the crimp tests on dyneema? thinking of making the switch
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Old 08-19-2019, 03:14 AM   #94
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Re: Crimping stiff spectra

All the feedback for crimping stiff spectra has been very positive. Personally I can't even imagine going back to tying spectra … crimping is much easier and gives you a higher breakage knot strength and is much more streamlined … thus giving you better performance. Just make sure you use stiff spectra and not hollow spectra.
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Old 08-19-2019, 05:35 PM   #95
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Re: Crimping stiff spectra

spearq8 thanks for the feedback. When your crimping are you using your loop before the crimp or the one that locks the knot for no slippage?
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Old 08-20-2019, 03:06 AM   #96
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spearq8 thanks for the feedback. When your crimping are you using your loop before the crimp or the one that locks the knot for no slippage?
I actually just use the simply loop without extra loop to stop the line from slipping. I can only remember one time where the knot slipped and that was with a giant cobia that I hit a little too far back and it wrapped around a wreck. The loop slip all the way to the shark fin but I still was able to use the shaft in that condition for the rest of the day. I guess adding the extra loop would prevent loop slippage but to be honest I would have to go back to my video to see how to tie that.
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sounds good. Hopefully get to put it to use soon. Thanks
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Old 08-27-2019, 07:14 PM   #98
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Re: Crimping stiff spectra

Rob Allen knot doesn't slips and works very well.
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Old 08-28-2019, 06:28 AM   #99
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Actually the main advantage for crimping spectra rather than tying a knot is to increase the breaking strength of the line. Spectra and Dyneema suffer a large drop in breaking strength when a knot is used. With the crimp the breaking strength of the line is much higher. Of course a crimp is also much more streamlined and has much less drag on shaft which can keep shaft velocities higher.

The Rob Allen knot is very good if you want to tie knots. It definitely is better than the overhand knot which can be quite bulky. If I don't have a crimp I use it … but to be honest after using crimps I find it very hard now to use knots on spectra or dyneema.
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Stiff dyneema breaking strenght is something like 600 #. Even if it is reduced by 50% it is more than enough for our activity. The maximum breaking strength must be just above the float lift. We're not hanging a fish out of the water... On the other hand, a poorly installed crimp is highly prone to cut the line. I'll stay with the knot. Haven't had a problem yet.
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Old 08-29-2019, 04:54 AM   #101
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No that my name is mentioned....


We tested this crimp option way back when you guys first talked about it. I might have set it wrong but the profile was very close to a knot and broke at about one third the break strain.
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Not to mention the risk of the crimp slipping. As it did.
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