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2008 SBO Blue Storm Classic - May 17-18 This is the traditional Spearboard Open to be held May 17-18, 2008 - New Port Richey Rotary Pavilion

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Old 05-19-2008, 10:38 AM   #16
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How do you prove fish were from the Bahamas, did the fish have Bahamian passports?
I guess when the fish are beat up, looking a few days old and the divers fail a polygraph.... that's how I guess.
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:54 AM   #17
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Re: What happened to Harolf Dean????

Old looking fish I understand but Polygraph? I thought that was a joke, and still do.
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:37 AM   #18
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Old looking fish I understand but Polygraph? I thought that was a joke, and still do.

Why? Do you know of a better way to "out" dirtbag thieves?
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:53 AM   #19
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Old looking fish I understand but Polygraph? I thought that was a joke, and still do.
As RichT said, do you have a better way. And just why do you think a polygraph is a joke? I don't understand.
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:59 AM   #20
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Great job tony!!!!!!I will definatley dive the next tourney now. The whole bahamas guns charge would never happen
Great Job???? Tony has know about this cheating for three years! He kicked the old moderators off because they raised a concern about this EXACT THING! If anything, Tony tried everything he could to sweep this cheating under the rug until it became just too obvious.
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:09 PM   #21
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Re: What happened to Harolf Dean????

I'm just amazed that a lie detector machine is used in a spearfishing tournament. That is a definite indication that there is a problem with the structure of the event. I would never submit to that test whether I cheated or not, its degrading.

Polygraph tests have been proven to be inaccurate. I remember one particular show with Barbara Walters lying and passing the test. There is a reason why they're inadmissible in a court of law.

I don't care about this tournament one way or another so I have no opinion on Harlof getting busted.
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:28 PM   #22
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I'm just amazed that a lie detector machine is used in a spearfishing tournament. That is a definite indication that there is a problem with the structure of the event. I would never submit to that test whether I cheated or not, its degrading.

Polygraph tests have been proven to be inaccurate. I remember one particular show with Barbara Walters lying and passing the test. There is a reason why they're inadmissible in a court of law.

I don't care about this tournament one way or another so I have no opinion on Harlof getting busted.

Actually... Some states and federal court judges now accept lie-detector results even though many states ban them outright.

From what Ive read, Its far easier to beat a lie detector test than fail it, which these guys allegedly did.
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Re: What happened to Harolf Dean????

lie detector machines are used in most big tournaments and by entering the tourny you subject your self to the test
hes a cheater some one close to him told me and its about time he got caught
it was a stupid thing to do especialy a diver of his skill level probably could have scored pretty high without breaking the rules
if he comes to palm beach and does the same thing i will make him eat through a straw for a couple months.......see you guys at the next tourney
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Old 05-19-2008, 01:12 PM   #24
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I'm just amazed that a lie detector machine is used in a spearfishing tournament. That is a definite indication that there is a problem with the structure of the event. I would never submit to that test whether I cheated or not, its degrading.

Polygraph tests have been proven to be inaccurate. I remember one particular show with Barbara Walters lying and passing the test. There is a reason why they're inadmissible in a court of law.

I don't care about this tournament one way or another so I have no opinion on Harlof getting busted.
I imagine that if you cheated, it would be very degrading.
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Old 05-19-2008, 01:17 PM   #25
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SO what exactly did he do? Anyone know?
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Old 05-19-2008, 01:33 PM   #26
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The same thing he's done the last two years at least,, him and a few others left early and headed to the Bahamas to shoot fish with guns not slings.

Thank you to those involved in making sure it ended this year.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:08 PM   #27
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The format of this tournament is an open invitation to all cheaters. Surprised it took so long for someone to get busted. People cheat in tournaments with much more stringent rules, this one should be a piece of cake for the con artists. I work in aquaculture, and have quite a few cobes in our tanks that could take first place! It is a great tourney with a lot of good people, but to think nobody is going to try to cheat is naive.
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I would question your use of that man-kini. You should be arrested.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:23 PM   #29
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I work in aquaculture, and have quite a few cobes in our tanks that could take first place!
You have 95# cobes swimming around in your tanks?
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