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05-31-2009, 12:11 PM | #16 |
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Re: Round 2 MLPA maps available??
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05-31-2009, 06:42 PM | #17 |
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Re: Round 2 MLPA maps available??
Another diver asked me why all the proposals agree to close Santa Barbara. Until I compared all of these maps, I didn't think it was true. With the exception of External Proposal B, it looks like all the Gem Groups and External Proposals A & C pretty much agree to place a closure right where UCSB wants it. Incredible! Actually, lousy!
I don't dive those beaches, but I'm hearing from a lot of divers who do. And from dive shop owners who are going to be really seriously hurt by these closures. Not good.
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05-31-2009, 07:49 PM | #18 | |
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Probably the best thing you could have done to understand this mess was to shadow the groups that had to come up with these lousy arrays. Many did just that. We had observers in every group. That said, this is a pretty bad outcome for the folks who covet Coal Oil Point and Deveroux—I agree. However, we are hemmed in with size and spacing guidelines. Going to the East hits an outfall pipe—a no-no for reserves. Going to the West takes in Naples reef. Doing nothing busts the spacing guidelines preordained by the SAT. Please come up with a better idea and we will fight for it. Terry |
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05-31-2009, 09:01 PM | #19 |
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I'm trying. I'm trying. I agree, it's a difficult challenge with all the strong competing interests. What would be a preferred closure for divers might not be a preferred closure for kayakers, or lobsters fishermen, etc.
I'm hoping there might be some way to figure out a less painful outcome. We'll see.
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06-01-2009, 02:08 AM | #20 |
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In reviewing the current maps, it's amazing how the Laguna and SB areas proposed for closures aren't all that different than what was proposed way back in 2001. Except that the Carp. closure (from 2001) appears to have been taken away.
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06-01-2009, 01:18 PM | #21 |
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Forgive me if it's posted somewhere, but what was the vote count for Opal?
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06-01-2009, 04:52 PM | #22 |
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Nate, for the internal proposals that went through coverged as one, there was no vote necessary. I believe it was Lapis that was split, and it was a 61 and a 62 vote. The RSG was much more interested in keeping their internal proposals alive than the Ext. proposals. Well....ONE of the Ext. Proposals had pretty broad support, but the name of it escapes me at the moment...
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06-01-2009, 11:48 PM | #23 |
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I guess I should know this but I dont-What exactly is allowed in the blue and green areas? Just tried searching the MPA website and couldnt find anything. Any help appreciated.
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We have a lot of answers to these and most other questions on the MLPA 101 clips on Youtube. Hope this answers your questions- if not, let me know!!
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06-08-2009, 04:26 PM | #25 |
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Can someone post a link to the description/regulations for each of the SMCA's for these maps? In particular, I am interested in the rules for the SMCA at the southern end of Orange county in external C (high LOP only allowing spearing of coastal pelagics?) and also the SMCAs in the Laguna area in external A (also high LOP?)?
Very sneaky the way external C captures Monarch Bay with their geometry, could have made the point a very easy landmark and left SOME rocky structure...but no. |
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Thanks for providing that link for the external proposals Terry. But could you also provide a link to the Internal Proposals zip files? I like that Google Earth format a lot. Helps when comparing the maps.
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06-08-2009, 08:17 PM | #28 |
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You can go to Marine Map now and without a login see External A, External B, and all four of the internal proposals. External C is not available as it is not moving forward. go to www.marinemap.org/marinemap Close the data layer and splash screen windows. Click on the Marine protected Areas And Arrays toolbar to open the selection box then you can check the array you want to see under public arrays. There is also a help icon that will help you understand how to select MPA areas or arrays. Then you can click an area and get full info that tells take and other information. Pretty easy.
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