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Old 09-07-2017, 10:39 AM   #376
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Re: Alert to Deniers - February breaks global temperature records by 'shocking' amoun

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Have you guys in the US seen more frequent and stronger hurricanes and tornados, and if so why, if it has nothing to do with climate changing?

No. If anything, the opposite is true. It's been 9 years since a major (3-5)
Hurricane has hit the US.

I can't speak for tornados, but I haven't noticed any increase in them on the news either.

So we have 2 big hurricanes in a month. That wasn't uncommon in the past. So if anything, global warming is decreasing the number of major hurricanes in the Atlantic basin.

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Old 09-10-2017, 10:21 PM   #377
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Have you guys in the US seen more frequent and stronger hurricanes and tornados, and if so why, if it has nothing to do with climate changing?
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You know you are right! My ass has been hurting way more that usual. Must be fuc#ing climate change! I fuc#ing love science.
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Ahh... Always refreshing watching Mr. Fitz putting his intellect on display! Bravo Mr. Fitz, bravo!
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Well, I wasn't saying this or that, and I certainly wasn't saying "I told you so". I don't live in the states and asked a question out of curiosity to the people with first hand info. Derailed straight away, what a ****ing surprise.

Well.... I wasn't going to say anything. But now that Fitz brought up personal details..... My balls have been itchier.

But perhaps the point Fitz was making is that correlation is not causation. On top of that, there's no clear correlation. So..... Did you have some point in mind?
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Old 09-11-2017, 05:08 AM   #378
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Well.... I wasn't going to say anything. But now that Fitz brought up personal details..... My balls have been itchier.

But perhaps the point Fitz was making is that correlation is not causation. On top of that, there's no clear correlation. So..... Did you have some point in mind?


Not really a point, I don't live there and don't have first hand info. From my impression the hurricanes causing big problems have been appearing more frequent. Katrina, Sandy, Matthew, Harvey and Irma, all causing big problems. Maybe it is just the news that are more easily accessible nowadays?
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:14 AM   #379
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Re: Alert to Deniers - February breaks global temperature records by 'shocking' amoun

katrina was 12 years ago. we were told that was proof that GW was making them stronger & more frequent.

then we had 12 years of relative calm with no hurricanes here. if GW was in fact driving them, why would we go so long without a one?

we've had cat 4 & cat 5 hurricanes before. we've had multiples in a single year before. this is, after all, the peak of hurricane season, the time of year that the coast of africa spits them out like a pinball machine.
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:16 AM   #380
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Not really a point, I don't live there and don't have first hand info. From my impression the hurricanes causing big problems have been appearing more frequent. Katrina, Sandy, Matthew, Harvey and Irma, all causing big problems. Maybe it is just the news that are more easily accessible nowadays?
As usual, it depends upon whose charts you want to look at. Data can be snipped and parsed in multiple different formats to support whichever conclusion you favor.

It's either this; http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdec.shtml (Effectively no change or decreasing)

Or this; https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/historical...storm-records/ (Perhaps. Maybe. Inconclusive)

We're all gonna die. Or probably not. http://www.latimes.com/science/scien...htmlstory.html

No correlation. But it could happen; http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2...torms-graphic/

Overall, I'd say there is no evidence linking CO2 and hurricanes.
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