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Old 07-04-2014, 10:47 PM   #16
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But y0u should watch NBC news. It's important to keep track of really important social issues like Matt's hairline and how to make tater salad without mayo.
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We should welcome as many immigrants here as you personally are willing to support. And not one more.
Kids? I'd take 'em. Adults? They should be taking care of themselves. Most do.

Welfare for anyone who won't work? Immoral and exceedingly harmful to the recipients. Welfare for people who immigrate? Insane!

But are Republicans about to take on welfare and entitlements? Not on your life.
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Kids? I'd take 'em. Adults? They should be taking care of themselves. Most do.

Welfare for anyone who won't work? Immoral and exceedingly harmful to the recipients. Welfare for people who immigrate? Insane!

But are Republicans about to take on welfare and entitlements? Not on your life.
Ok, there are 140 that come here every 3 days. So you wil take how many? Oh,you said ALL right?
Please take them now, because border patrol cannot process all the people. And you know we now have taxpayer funded coyotes, ICE.
The flow will not stop.
As soon as you get to Murrieta and take custody, the taxpayers will be very happy.
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So... this is yahoo right? fox is where, what?
You do know that yahoo is for low information voters right?
As for fox, do you watch Watters World, or know what it is? Or...did you see the interview of Bill Ayers by "hottie" Megan Kelly? Good interview, I recommend watching it. Know the enemy thing.
All shit in life has it's hotties and idiots, but you can still get some good stuff from it.
As for the illegals, nobody deserves to die in the desert. But here is the question, why do you think someone coming from a culture of dictatorship, junta rulers and socialism will, understand liberty, want small government and denounce welfare? How will these, and I say invaders, help with bringing this republic back to what the written constitution sayes, in plain English?
Yes, dear. I know it pains you deeply when anyone posts from any site not approved by a committee of Glen Beck, Shawn Hannity, and Rush Limbo. Because after all, facts are only facts if they're Republican facts!

It's a sign of mental and moral deficiency when the source of a story matters more than the veracity of the story. I can't help but notice that most sources really bother you.

As for Megan Kelly, I can't say that I've ever watched her do an interview that was deeper or wider than fourth grade material. But she can sling a lot of passion into vacuous soundbites! And more importantly, she looks damn good doing it.

I'd give illegal immigrants equal or better odds of favoring strict interpretation of the constitution as compared to recent college grads, on the whole. Should we deport college grads, too?

I don't watch any teevee talking heads regularly, but I noticed that rights supposedly safeguarded in the constitution didn't really seem to matter to the talking heads at Fox any more than CNN. Just mention the "T" word, and the constitution and natural rights fly out the window. Once some bureaucrat or bureaucrats have "decided" that someone is a terrorist, the talking heads at Fox think it would be sacrilege to grant a trial.

Of course that works just fine until you're the one defined as a terrorist. Ask Harry Reid who terrorists are. Guarantee you'd make the list if he was the one compiling it. So would I. He's already said as much concerning the Bundy Ranch supporters.

Isn't fascism great? Fox news anchor certainly seem to think so. They just think it should only apply to brown people.

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Having Murdered Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and the US Constitution, Washington is now Murdering Ukraine.

Thanks to Op-Ed News contributor Eric Zuesse, I can bring to your attention these photographs (URL below) of what the Nazi Government in Washington is doing to Ukrainians who protest the Washington Nazis’ theft of their country. On this Fourth of July Americans need to ask themselves just how much horror, how much evil, and how many lies they can accept from a government in Washington that has established itself independently of any input from citizens to which government in the US is allegedly accountable. Before you wrap yourself in the flag this July 4th, realize that “your” government under Clinton, Bush, and Obama has destroyed in your name, in whole or part, eight countries, murdering, maiming, and displacing millions of civilians, and now is at work on Ukraine. These massive crimes against humanity rival Hitler’s and have been completely covered up by the presstitute American media, a collection of whores who lie for money. How can you be a human when you sit in front of CNN, Fox News or read the New York Times and submit to the brainwashing? Think about how you are propagandized, lied to, disinformed, and led into accepting “your” government’s murder of millions of peoples. Consider, isn’t it treason for Washington to so dishonor the flag that we love? Why do we tolerate it? What is wrong with us? Our duty is to the Constitution, not to the criminals in Washington. A patriot is a person who defends the Constitution against enemies “foreign and domestic.” While we sat sucking our thumbs, shaking in our boots in fear of nonexistent “terrorists,” our Constitution was murdered by Washington.

Turn your backs and walk away from the militarist poison that will be spewed in July 4th speeches. Do you really want to support the Washington Nazis in their campaign to become known as the worst mass murderers in world history? Is mass murder to be America’s legacy to the world?

Here are the photos of Washington’s ruin of Ukraine. The evil demons in Washington and Washington’s whore media tell you that these devastated people are “terrorists.” If you believe that, you are not human.

Here is Erik Zuesse’s article about the Washington sponsored murders.

Read it and be so ashamed. Everything American has been totally dishonored by “our” government, which has become the epitome of total evil.

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Old 07-05-2014, 10:59 AM   #21
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Yes, dear. I know it pains you deeply when anyone posts from any site not approved by a committee of Glen Beck, Shawn Hannity, and Rush Limbo. Because after all, facts are only facts if they're Republican facts!

It's a sign of mental and moral deficiency when the source of a story matters more than the veracity if the story. I can't help but notice that most sources really bother you.

As for Megan Kelly, I can't say that I've ever watched her do an interview that was deeper or wider than fourth grade material. But she can sling a lot of passion into vacuous soundbites! And more importantly, she looks damn good doing it.

I'd give illegal immigrants equal or better odds of favoring strict interpretation of the constitution as compared to recent college grads, on the whole. Should we deport college grads, too?

I don't watch any teevee talking heads regularly, but I noticed that rights supposedly safeguarded in the constitution didn't really seem to matter to the talking heads at Fox any more than CNN. Just mention the "T" word, and the constitution and natural rights fly out the window. Once some bureaucrat or bureaucrats have "decided" that someone is a terrorist, the talking heads at Fox think it would be sacrilege to grant a trial.

Of course that works just fine until you're the one defined as a terrorist. Ask Harry Reid who terrorists are. Guarantee you'd make the list if he was the one compiling it. So would I. He's already said as much concerning the Bundy Ranch supporters.

Isn't fascism great? Fox news anchor certainly seem to think so. They just think it should only apply to brown people.
Mepps, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but you are just as screwed up as the "Fox watchers', you berate, your just their left wing counterpart. Trying to argue with an extremist regardless which side they lie on is a complete waist of time and energy, and with that understanding I will withdraw from this endeavor.
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Mepps, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but you are just as screwed up as the "Fox watchers', you berate, your just their left wing counterpart. Trying to argue with an extremist regardless which side they lie on is a complete waist of time and energy, and with that understanding I will withdraw from this endeavor.

Left wing? That's a new one.

I'm about as far from left wing as anyone I know. The fact that I despise the fear mongering and stupidification of news doesn't make me left wing. Making fun of silly soundbite politics is an equal opportunity endeavor. Mocking stoopid on Fox is just as fun as mocking stoopid on CNN.

It's all in good fun.

Besides, now that most of the liberal wing has quit this section of SB, how can I knock over any hornets nests picking on Obama? It would be unsporting. Like shooting puppy dogs.
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Old 07-05-2014, 01:20 PM   #23
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Though, to be honest, I'm still not above making fun of the Great Taupe Hope, the lame duck dictator in the Oval Office. It's just that it's hard to be original taking shots at such a worked-over target.

I always do my best to offend all people fairly and equally.
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Good article. I've been viewing some of the horrors of the indiscriminate bombings of civilian populations in the Ukraine...supported by our criminal corrupt douchebags in the executive office. It's really shameful...as an American citizen.
I could barely stomach the sheeple singing "I'm proud to be an American..." to the song while I was viewing the fireworks last night. It made me want to scream at them to stop their ignorant bleating.

Pro-Russian Rebels Flee Slavyansk After "Massive Shelling", Demand Putin's Help To Avoid "Genocide"

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I like Fox News more than any other news channel on TV. Their anchors/hotties are not only better educated than most all other network anchors combined but they are biased towards self responsibility. Since this country was founded on, and grew into the most altruistic country on earth based on that SPECIFIC principle, it seems was should try and keep things that way.

During the height of immigration into the US through Ellis Island, about 290,000 people a year were naturalized, currently we're naturalizing over 750,000 a year. More people want to come to the US than all other countries combined, and we naturalized more people into the US than all other countries combined. What the hell is the problem with trying to keep our borders closed to illegal immigration? You honestly think we're not doing enough to help people come here and to help other countries to score of BILLIONS of dollars a year? Wake up people, facts are facts. Quit listening to crooked news channels and politicians.
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I like Fox News more than any other news channel on TV. Their anchors/hotties are not only better educated than most all other network anchors combined but they are biased towards self responsibility. Since this country was founded on, and grew into the most altruistic country on earth based on that SPECIFIC principle, it seems was should try and keep things that way
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Might as well be watching WWF and believing it. Faux news has been in the top ten contributors to the Clintons for at least a decade.
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Might as well be watching WWF and believing it. Faux news gas been in the top ten contributors to the Clintons for at least a decade.
That's BS! Are you really gonna trash talk WWF that way?
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Hey, y'all. Don't be duped. The news you're watching on the boobtoob is scripted to deceive you and make you dumber by the minute. Doesn't matter whether it's Fox, PBS, CNN, or NBC.

It's all run by the same people and suited to the same agenda. Sure, there's a little good stuff there. Even PBS has some great programming. But you're missing the bigger picture.
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The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life and property.


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The ‘study of flags’ is called vexillology. Per the Online Etymology Dictionary:

vexillology (n.)
“study of flags,” 1959, from Latin vexillum “flag, military ensign, banner” (from velum “a sail, curtain, veil; see veil (n.)) + -ology.

As far as I can determine, the origin of displaying a flag in reverse (upside down) as a symbol/means of signaling distress and/or danger is not clearcut. All indications reference flags pertaining to ships at sea. I’m not going to address the various theories about the history of its origin. Anyone who is interested in pursuing it should start with the FOTW (Flags Of The World) related page “Flying flags upside down“.

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My father was a Navy Veteran. He joined when he was 16 years old and served in the Pacific Theatre and in Korea. When he died in 1999 he was buried at Culpeper National Cemetery with representatives from The Department of Veterans Affairs present. My mother was presented a 9 foot long United States flag, folded per protocol. It has remained in that folded condition, in a triangular box, in a closet, since that time she came home from the funeral……..until now.

The significance, consequences, and influence of symbology in all human cultures cannot denied nor dismissed. On a normal day I really could care less about this flag. But since emblematically today is not a normal day for this country, and out of respect for my dad who would see ‘his’ flag as personally impactful on a long-closed chapter of his life……I took it out of the closet… and hung it in reverse on the 25 foot flagpole my mother had erected in the backyard a couple of years after his death. They were avid golfers, so it was particularly meaningful to her to situate the flag pole a mere 10 feet from the cart path that borders the 6th green.



Dad would be pulling out whatever hair he had left over the ‘State of the Nation’ as it is today. While basically conservative in thought, he allowed himself to think outside the box and color outside lines; in that he told me once during a conversation that he believed in UFOs. I can’t help but wonder if the time he spent in the Navy….which was focused in Naval Intelligence and proceeded by a short stint in the CIA….had something to do with that uncommon, yet notable, belief.

So….it’s a gorgeous day here, with frequent refreshing small gusts of humid-less breezes that unfurl the flag for full-view.




Wishing everyone a wonderful July 4th….as it is meant to be.

FOURTH TURNING ACCELERATING125 commentsPosted on 16th June 2014 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues
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“In retrospect, the spark might seem as ominous as a financial crash, as ordinary as a national election, or as trivial as a Tea Party. The catalyst will unfold according to a basic Crisis dynamic that underlies all of these scenarios: An initial spark will trigger a chain reaction of unyielding responses and further emergencies. The core elements of these scenarios (debt, civic decay, global disorder) will matter more than the details, which the catalyst will juxtapose and connect in some unknowable way. If foreign societies are also entering a Fourth Turning, this could accelerate the chain reaction. At home and abroad, these events will reflect the tearing of the civic fabric at points of extreme vulnerability –problem areas where America will have neglected, denied, or delayed needed action.” - The Fourth Turning - Strauss & Howe – 1997

This past week saw an event revealing the cluelessness and ignorance of the linear thinking establishment. They are oblivious to the cyclicality of history and unaware of their precarious situation, as the mood of the country and the world portends their demise. Eric Cantor, the ultimate establishment neo-con Republican House Majority Leader, was crushed in a primary by a completely unknown economics professor, outspent by Cantor $4.9 million to $123,000. Cantor spent more at steakhouses than David Brat spent on his entire campaign. Cantor, a lackey for Blackstone, Goldman Sachs, Israel, and dozens of other mega-corporations, was the first House Majority leader defeated in a primary since the position was created in the 1890s. He won his last primary by 60%.

This was as big a shock to the Republican establishment as it was to the Democratic establishment, the mainstream corporate media establishment, and the Tea Party establishment that didn’t provide David Brat one red cent of their vast horde of contributions. They are now scrambling to generate a storyline explaining this unexplainable development as if it was entirely predictable. These wealthy, myopic, propaganda peddling, purveyors of the status quo just felt the foundation of their world shudder beneath them. Like a volcano, with pressure building within, the world as we know it is about to blow. Who gets devastated by the massive explosion and flow of molten lava is yet to be determined, but there is nothing the establishment can do to stop the eruption. This entire Deep State hierarchy has been developed over decades, as they have flawlessly implemented Edward Bernays teachings from the Propaganda playbook.

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. …In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.” – Edward Bernays – Propaganda – 1928

The linear thinkers, who constitute the invisible government and unelected true ruling power, are flabbergasted their game plan, which has worked for the last seven decades, is failing to have the usual sway over the normally compliant masses. Lies, misinformation, deception, propaganda, easy debt, cheap oil, endless commercial expansion, relentless marketing, never ending war, politicians selected by bankers and mega-corporations, tax code created to benefit the .01%, and laws written by the lobbyists for the oligarchs designed to control the plebs and enrich the modern aristocracy, made the world go round until 2008. Linear thinkers in government, business, banking and media have been perpetuating the falsehood of a return to normalcy, recovery, and linear progress. They are willfully ignorant of history because acknowledging its cyclicality would be admitting how precarious their positions of power, wealth, and control truly are.



History does not proceed in a straight line of forward advancement. It has a seasonal nature geared to the 80 year life cycle of human beings. The most basic lesson of history is we never seem to learn the lessons of history. A period of Crisis arrives like Winter, approximately 60 years after the resolution of the prior Crisis, with a climax occurring approximately 80 years after the prior Crisis climax. The generational dynamics based upon human life cycles have lined up once again into Crisis mode. Anyone who hasn’t sensed the mood change in the country since 2008, hasn’t been paying attention. The linear thinking establishment refuses to accept the inevitability of their existing paradigm collapsing in a chaotic whirlwind of violence, death on a grand scale and decisive war. The existing social order is always swept away during a Fourth Turning.

Saeculum (climax year) Crisis (Full Era) Time from one Crisis climax to next Crisis climax
Revolutionary (1781) American Revolution(1773–1794)
Civil War (1863) Civil War(1860–1865) 82 years
Great Power (1944) Great Depressionand World War II(1929-1946) 81 years
Millennial (2025?) Global Financial Crisis(2008–2029?) 81 years?
The Global Financial Crisis, which began in September 2008, marked the beginning of a likely two decade long episode of fierce winter-like blizzard conditions that will get progressively worse as this Fourth Turning churns toward its bloody climax. The evil wealthy men and their paid off pawns in politics and the media who constitute the invisible government, governing behind the scenes, molding minds, forming tastes and suggesting ideas to the gullible masses, will not relinquish their wealth and power without a fight. They have been utilizing all emergency monetary and fiscal levers, while conducting a data disinformation campaign and utilizing their control of the dying legacy media to keep the masses distracted, entertained and confused.

The establishment has convinced a vast swath of the public to actually believe 0% interest rates for the last 5 years, adding $1 trillion per year to the already Himalayan national debt, allowing the Federal Reserve buy $3 trillion of toxic debt from their Wall Street banking cabal owners, while creating a high rate of inflation in energy, food, healthcare and tuition costs, and negative growth in real wages, is somehow beneficial to them and reflects a return to normalcy. The current state of our economic, financial, political and judicial systems, along with the fraying social fabric of society reflects EXTREME dysfunction and in no way exhibits anything resembling a normal state of affairs. The government apparatchiks, corporate media talking heads, Wall Street captured economists, and lackeys for billionaire oligarchs are highly paid liars using every Bernaysian trick to manipulate the beliefs, desires, and prejudices of the willfully ignorant masses. They capitalize on the cognitive dissonance and normalcy bias being practiced by the majority of people in the country. Like a dog chasing its tail, they have the public up in arms about meaningless social issues and ignoring the looting of the country by sociopathic bankers.

Those in power need to sell their storyline of advancement, despite the overwhelming evidence of a societal implosion and economic regression for the 99.99%. They need to distract the masses with inconsequential emotional issues like gay marriage, mass murderers, climate change, party politics, racism, and phantom terror threats, so the masses don’t focus on how badly they are being screwed by the One Party invisible government. For those who have been too dumbed down by our government public education system to even comprehend anything beyond a third grade level, we have The Kardashians, Bridezilla, Duck Dynasty, I Didn’t Know I Was Pregnant, iGadgets, Twitter, Facebook, professional sports, Hollywood blockbusters, and toxic fast food paid for with your EBT card. Our world is besieged by triviality, plagued by idiocy, inundated with propaganda, and consumed with consumption.

In a country of 318 million people, the few believe they must mold the minds of the masses in order for society to function smoothly. Of course this is a huge lie. They need to mold those minds in order to retain their power, wealth, control. They are focused on the daily dose of lies, mistruths, disinformation, and distractions required to keep the masses anesthetized. They have ignored the lessons of history and the big picture driving the Crisis events which will change the world over the next fifteen years. Fourth Turnings don’t calm down, fizzle out, or revert to what happened in the prior twenty years, just as the unyielding harsh Winter cannot revert to the glorious days of Fall or the sweltering days of Summer. There is no escaping the dire, deadly and dangerous times directly ahead of us.

“Reflect on what happens when a terrible winter blizzard strikes. You hear the weather warning but probably fail to act on it. The sky darkens. Then the storm hits with full fury, and the air is a howling whiteness. One by one, your links to the machine age break down. Electricity flickers out, cutting off the TV. Batteries fade, cutting off the radio. Phones go dead. Roads become impossible, and cars get stuck. Food supplies dwindle. Day to day vestiges of modern civilization – bank machines, mutual funds, mass retailers, computers, satellites, airplanes, governments – all recede into irrelevance. Picture yourself and your loved ones in the midst of a howling blizzard that lasts several years. Think about what you would need, who could help you, and why your fate might matter to anybody other than yourself. That is how to plan for a saecular winter. Don’t think you can escape the Fourth Turning. History warns that a Crisis will reshape the basic social and economic environment that you now take for granted.” – Strauss & Howe - The Fourth Turning

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