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07-10-2005, 05:55 PM | #16 | |
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OK I see what you're saying, seems though that such a setup would be good for open water but not the rigs? I was told for the rigs, at least another option was, to use that same hole on the butt of my gun to simply attach a 5' piece of rope and then if needed due to the size/strength of the fish, just tie it off onto the rig structure and let the fish tire itself out...Are we on the same page here?, because I like that setup..seems the float system can get real messy but maybe it just takes getting used to |
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07-10-2005, 06:00 PM | #17 |
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Re: Texas Rig Freediving
I assumed you were freediving?
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07-10-2005, 06:05 PM | #18 | |
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07-10-2005, 06:08 PM | #19 |
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Got ya.The riding rig would work well.Use two wrap of SS cable and the 5ft rope.IF ya gettin ya ass whiped tie him off!
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07-10-2005, 06:08 PM | #20 |
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I'm not sure I followed Nick and I don't know where the line release is on a Biller, but I think he is asking me for photos of the Hawaiian line release set up.
You cut your shooting line to a length so that the loop in the rear end is a few inches from the line release. Then stretch a loop of bungee from the shooting line to the line release and attach your float line to the loop in the shooting line. When you pull the trigger, the shooting line is released and the fish is connected directly to your float line while you get to keep the gun in your hands without it being in the chain. Here are before-release and after-release photos. Don't let the fancy bungee thing confuse the issue. You can simply tie a loop of bungee to the rear of the shooting line using a square knot or hog rings. |
07-10-2005, 06:12 PM | #21 |
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Thanks Bill,
That should help LSU out.Tiger,you threw me off asking rigging questions on a freedive thread. |
07-10-2005, 06:17 PM | #22 |
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That is a sweet getup..great idea for hunting the weedlines for dolphin or tuna, I guess I could just keep two different lines with me..thanks for the pics..hey chasin, what type of line for the float line do you use and what type of float?
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07-10-2005, 06:32 PM | #26 |
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And here is the alternative that Nick mentioned. There is a loop of mono or cable through a hole in the butt, and the float line is clipped to the loop. With this method your shooting line would be attached to the gun, and the gun would be pulled around between the shooting line and float line.
If you wonder why the loop suddenly appeared on that gun and was not there in the previous photos, I just got the gun Thursday night and forgot to put the loop on before going diving Friday and Saturday. I never attach a float line to the butt loop, but I do throw clip lines over the side so that I can attach the guns to them and not have them in my hands while I go off or on to the swimstep. |
07-10-2005, 06:40 PM | #27 | |
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07-10-2005, 06:41 PM | #28 | |
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In general, I find that its not a problem since the fish is so tied up that it can't take any more line out. After all, you wouldn't be diving to free him if he were loose and could be pulled up. However, remember to put your reel in freespool before you dive. Otherwise, while you bring the fish up one side of the cross member, you will be pulling your gun down the other side. I know a guy who shot a big fish that tangled up in the kelp in a stiff current that had the kelp bent over 20 feet below the surface. He found the fish, brained it, and pulled it up. But he had left his reel locked, so about the time he reached the surface, the gun had been pulled deep into the kelp and the fish was jerked from his hands. He was unable to find either the fish or the gun in that current and had to leave both of them. The next day he returned with a tank and found his fish dead on the bottom without a seal or shark bite in it. Then he followed the line up into the kelp and found his gun all tangled there. And of course the best option is to have your buddy on the surface holding the gun while you dive on the fish. |
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07-10-2005, 06:48 PM | #29 |
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Bill, you guys are nuts diving in that Kelp...I am concerned enough about bulls and tigers which at least I can handle, but GREAT WHITE"s...no spank you..you got some big family jewels there buddy..more power to ya
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07-10-2005, 07:03 PM | #30 |
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I think most of us have the illusion that we are safe as long as we stay in the kelp. I don't think its true, but whatever works.
But we were just discussing the trade-offs on the way to the islands the other day. You guys have so many of those bulls, tigers, etc and they are really dangerous. While it seems like they generally give you a bit of warning, they do seem to get a lot of swimmers, if not divers. Our great whites, on the other hand, don't bite us nearly as often, but when they do, its not as if we are likely to be able to fight them off or even see them coming. All this leads me to a rather fatalistic attitude. At least my odds of encountering one are low, and there isn't much I can do about it anyway, so I try not to think about it. It probably beats the shit out of dying of prostate cancer. |
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