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Old 10-22-2010, 02:18 PM   #16
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Re: Surviving the Cut, watch a blackout!

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This is how we train. Dynamic situation does not allow for perfect preparation. If you are not physically or psychologically able you will not pass. This leaves the men with the greatest propensity for survival. That capability is then the foundation on which you build force multiplication with training. You square that foundation and force multiplication by adding another man next to you with the same propensity for survival and advanced training. The gorilla safety is how we do it... train like you fight... ugly, fast, effective. They are not training them to die but rather picking the best steel to sharpen. my .02
I can only imagine what some of these guys are capable of, it would be interesting to see what they can do with a 10 min breath up, and 85 cm carbon fiber fins.
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Old 10-22-2010, 02:35 PM   #17
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Re: Surviving the Cut, watch a blackout!

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Horrendous safety, saw only 1 man with a float and he didn't even have fins on, if these guys blacked out in the deep end not near the wall there could be some serious problems.
Thats why not everyone can say they are miliatry divers, and the ones who are say it with pride

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Old 11-04-2010, 01:22 PM   #18
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Re: Surviving the Cut, watch a blackout!

They aren't training them to be free divers, they are being trained to be Marines. Pushing them to thier limits allows them to see what they are capable of, not what they think they are capable of. Imagine that same man with a 60 lb ruck wading across a river when he steps in a deep hole and goes completely underwater and gets swept away by the current...he knows he's got time to shed some weight because he knows he's not going to die in the next 10 seconds...that training may keep him from panicking and save his life.
Some of you may see safety issues but you also have to remember that it's a TV show and you won't see everything that is really going on.
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Old 11-05-2010, 04:32 PM   #19
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The armed forces instructors need a PFI or FII course in how to PROPERLY instruct their students and learn what they are seeing and how to properly handle it. Hope none of you reading this thread listen to anything that was said in the video. It's close to retarded. So. . . if an armed force guy's partner experiences blackout or LMC, and there is no "pool deck" to pull him up on. . . then what??? EGAD!!!

Where is the teaching on "breathing up"? Peak inhalation? Anything?

On purging breaths upon breaking the surface? THEN talking or whatever. . .

These idiots are teaching our servicemen how to DIE. . .not LIVE!

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They aren't training them to be free divers, they are being trained to be Marines. Pushing them to thier limits allows them to see what they are capable of, not what they think they are capable of. Imagine that same man with a 60 lb ruck wading across a river when he steps in a deep hole and goes completely underwater and gets swept away by the current...he knows he's got time to shed some weight because he knows he's not going to die in the next 10 seconds...that training may keep him from panicking and save his life.
Some of you may see safety issues but you also have to remember that it's a TV show and you won't see everything that is really going on.

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