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Old 05-22-2019, 05:22 PM   #1
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Pneumatic speargun question

Hi guys. I have a question. My friend loves to spearfish but due to shoulder problems, he is having a heck of a time loading the bands on his speargun. I was thinking about recommending a pneumatic gun but I'm not sure how hard it is to load those. Do you guys have any idea how rubber band vs. pneumatic guns compare when it comes to difficulty loading them?

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Old 05-22-2019, 05:29 PM   #2
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Re: Pneumatic speargun question

I think from the little I have used a pneumatic gun. The pneumatic gun is harder on arms because you are only using one arm to load vs. Both arms to load bands that last inch on a pnuematic is tough.
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Old 05-22-2019, 05:48 PM   #3
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Re: Pneumatic speargun question

Harder to load then a band gun depending on size. A small 70 cm is pretty easy. I don't think its gonna solve his issue.
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Old 05-22-2019, 08:26 PM   #4
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Re: Pneumatic speargun question

As a long time pneumatic speargun user, as well as everything else, it is going to depend on which shoulder, or is it both! Short pneumatics are easy to load, but when pumped up for maximum performance it is a very hard push to the relatch, the last six inches or so. As the USA has not shut the door on carbon dioxide guns yet may I suggest that he take a look at the MACO2 which has a loading effort very close to zero. Someone else on this board, KC Spearo from memory, did exactly that.

The guns are not cheap, but that may not be an issue and in this type of service I think that they are ideal. There are lever loaded guns such as hydropneumatics, but these are rare as henís teeth and are virtually all sinkers after the shot.

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Old 05-22-2019, 09:11 PM   #5
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Re: Pneumatic speargun question

Another possibility, but may be hard to find, are leg loading spearguns such as the old Technisub "Super Blitz". With these guns you hang onto the rear grip handle and push a muzzle slide along the barrel to cock the bands with your feet while wearing dive fins. A ratchet system stops the muzzle at the nose of the gun and the bands are now cocked for the shot. They were not very popular, but could be a solution for your friend if he can find one. Eurogun type with no cocking stock.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...taly-170838413

Found one here: https://aucfree.com/items/e286625323

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Old 05-23-2019, 02:01 PM   #6
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Another possibility, but may be hard to find, are leg loading spearguns such as the old Technisub "Super Blitz". With these guns you hang onto the rear grip handle and push a muzzle slide along the barrel to cock the bands with your feet while wearing dive fins. A ratchet system stops the muzzle at the nose of the gun and the bands are now cocked for the shot. They were not very popular, but could be a solution for your friend if he can find one. Eurogun type with no cocking stock.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...taly-170838413

Found one here: https://aucfree.com/items/e286625323
Thank you for the replies. Let me talk to my friend and tell him about these options.
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Old 05-23-2019, 05:41 PM   #7
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Re: Pneumatic speargun question

Loading a pneumatic is not harder or easier. It's just different. And long ones (more than 100) may need the use of an extender. Y have 2 of them; a 100 that I load without an extender (and it is second to none in murky waters) and a 120 that I need an extender to load but has a better range in clear water.

Is your friend hurted in both shoulders or just one?

Thing is that when you load a pneumatic properly, you use one arm strenght and one (opposite side) leg. If he's hurt in just one shoulder, that would be a perfect alternative. He needs to develop a proper technique though.

Here's a video on how to load a long one with an extender:


This is me loading and shooting a short one in a pool:


And here you can see it in action with real fish in real world (Panama):

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Old 05-28-2019, 04:19 PM   #8
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Re: Pneumatic speargun question

It is easier to load a band speargun than load a pneumatic speargun. Band spearguns are also easier to maintain and more quiet so it would be best for your friend to find a band speargun that fits his needs.
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It is easier to load a band speargun than load a pneumatic speargun. Band spearguns are also easier to maintain and more quiet so it would be best for your friend to find a band speargun that fits his needs.
Did you note that he has shoulder problems, hence the original question?
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And pneumatics are maintenance free for many years if washed after each use.
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Re: Pneumatic speargun question

The first speargun I used was a pneumatic speargun my uncle gave me. I caught lots of fish on it for many years but it was nowhere near ''maintenance free''. Had the O ring and other parts replaced several times and the spear was harder to load compared to my current band spearguns. That pneumatic speargun and all other pneumatic spearguns I used where very loud every time I shot the spear which is something I did not like about those type of spearguns. Glad I did my research +14 years ago and got me a couple band spearguns which are one of the best investments I have made. The next speargun I will add to my collection will be another band speargun as well and I will not waste my money on any pneumatic spearguns.
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Old 05-29-2019, 07:45 PM   #12
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Re: Pneumatic speargun question

Hopefully the OP will let us know what his friend aims to do.
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:16 AM   #13
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The first speargun I used was a pneumatic speargun my uncle gave me. I caught lots of fish on it for many years but it was nowhere near ''maintenance free''. Had the O ring and other parts replaced several times and the spear was harder to load compared to my current band spearguns. That pneumatic speargun and all other pneumatic spearguns I used where very loud every time I shot the spear which is something I did not like about those type of spearguns. Glad I did my research +14 years ago and got me a couple band spearguns which are one of the best investments I have made. The next speargun I will add to my collection will be another band speargun as well and I will not waste my money on any pneumatic spearguns.
They've changed a lot the last 10 years. I went from old Stens to band guns (all types), then to rollers and now, depending on the situation, pneumatics or rollers.
For me, pneumatics are unbeatable for short range shots.

But anyone is free to wast its money on what makes them happy.
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:17 AM   #14
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Re: Pneumatic speargun question

The new generation of pneumatics wwith a "dry" barrel, may be easier than the old ones, as , by keeping the barrel without water inside, they require lower pressure to give a good performance. http://www.calibro12.com/index.php https://www.lgsub.it are 2 exemples.
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Re: Pneumatic speargun question

Or you can get a Salvimar Dark Side or Vuoto out of the shelf.
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