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Old 11-19-2019, 07:53 PM   #1
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That's gonna leave a mark!

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Old 11-19-2019, 08:40 PM   #2
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Thatís very unfortunate. I donít get how shit like this still happens
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Old 11-20-2019, 10:36 AM   #3
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That’s very unfortunate. I don’t get how shit like this still happens
Sloppy gun handling and carelessness usually with people not concentrating on the lethal weapon in their hands and shooting when the target is not clear of other divers. Had my share of shafts fly by from beginners and yahoos, so now keep away from all but a trusted few seasoned watermen.

These nasty accidents are all being accrued as future ammo to get rid of spearfishing, so as a sport it is ultra-important to keep our record as clean as possible. Some misinformed folk see us as little better than axe murderers and baby seal clubbers, I heard these exact words spill from the mouth of a government representative.
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Old 11-20-2019, 01:43 PM   #4
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Sloppy gun handling and carelessness usually with people not concentrating on the lethal weapon in their hands and shooting when the target is not clear of other divers. Had my share of shafts fly by from beginners and yahoos, so now keep away from all but a trusted few seasoned watermen.

These nasty accidents are all being accrued as future ammo to get rid of spearfishing, so as a sport it is ultra-important to keep our record as clean as possible. Some misinformed folk see us as little better than axe murderers and baby seal clubbers, I heard these exact words spill from the mouth of a government representative.
Spearfishing isnít going anywhere, anytime soon. No need to be so paranoid lol
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Old 11-20-2019, 04:08 PM   #5
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Spearfishing isnít going anywhere, anytime soon. No need to be so paranoid lol
Where you live maybe not, but these anti-hunting people keep their powder dry. Some years ago there was a proposed fishing bill that in a preamble said most fishermen were OK, but exceptions were the criminal actions of spearfishermen in not obeying size limits or species restrictions and stealing from fish traps and lobster pots. Now it was not as blunt as this, but that was what it was saying in a lot more words. It would have slipped through unobtrusively in a heap of political gobble de gook which no one really wants to wade through, but it was caught by myself and others who wrote up a submission dismantling it line by line and only then was it changed. In the wash up the whole bill was trashed as it was surfing on the then Marine Park no take zone expansion and an anti-cruelty to animals stance and the proponents had fortunately misread the public mood. But they certainly had a try and those green political types have not gone away.

It got as far as a draft bill for submission in black letter print that was circulated for public comment, but in a hidden way so that if you were not paying attention very few would have noticed it and it only really had spearfishing as the group most affected, line fishos for the moment were not going to lose anything much.

From memory it was back in 2005, so you would not have been doing much spearfishing then.

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Old 11-20-2019, 08:13 PM   #6
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Where you live maybe not, but these anti-hunting people keep their powder dry. Some years ago there was a proposed fishing bill that in a preamble said most fishermen were OK, but exceptions were the criminal actions of spearfishermen in not obeying size limits or species restrictions and stealing from fish traps and lobster pots. Now it was not as blunt as this, but that was what it was saying in a lot more words. It would have slipped through unobtrusively in a heap of political gobble de gook which no one really wants to wade through, but it was caught by myself and others who wrote up a submission dismantling it line by line and only then was it changed. In the wash up the whole bill was trashed as it was surfing on the then Marine Park no take zone expansion and an anti-cruelty to animals stance and the proponents had fortunately misread the public mood. But they certainly had a try and those green political types have not gone away.

It got as far as a draft bill for submission in black letter print that was circulated for public comment, but in a hidden way so that if you were not paying attention very few would have noticed it and it only really had spearfishing as the group most affected, line fishos for the moment were not going to lose anything much.

From memory it was back in 2005, so you would not have been doing much spearfishing then.
I was spearfishing in 2005, and reeling in wahoo in 2000. Itís not about age, but experience
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Old 11-20-2019, 08:15 PM   #7
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I was spearfishing in 2005, and reeling in wahoo in 2000. Itís not about age, but experience
The point was in 2005 you would not have known this was going on, and doing the maths 14 years ago you were age 10.
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The point was in 2005 you would not have known this was going on, and doing the maths 14 years ago you were age 10.
Iím guessing youíre old enough to be my grandfather? Why the **** are you arguing with me then
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I’m guessing you’re old enough to be my grandfather? Why the **** are you arguing with me then
Well no point in saying more, others can judge if you want to take detours from the subject at hand.

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Old 11-21-2019, 02:47 AM   #10
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Well no point is saying more, others can judge if you want to take detours from the subject at hand.
His screen name should be Smart Alec. All mouth, no brains.
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Spearfishing isnít going anywhere, anytime soon. No need to be so paranoid lol
You say that Alec but in the state you live there are already areas you cant spearfish, and species you can hook and line but not spear.

Most recently there were proposals to close more large areas of the keys to spearfishing, but not to hook and line. There are already huge areas of the keys where spearfishing is not allowed. So while they may not take it away all at once they are certainly taking it away piece by piece.

I don't consider myself paranoid but I am also not too naive to realize that if I am slowly boiled in a pot, the end result is the same.
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LOL good thing I just keep doing me then
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Old 12-31-2019, 02:17 PM   #13
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You say that Alec but in the state you live there are already areas you cant spearfish, and species you can hook and line but not spear.

Most recently there were proposals to close more large areas of the keys to spearfishing, but not to hook and line. There are already huge areas of the keys where spearfishing is not allowed. So while they may not take it away all at once they are certainly taking it away piece by piece.

I don't consider myself paranoid but I am also not too naive to realize that if I am slowly boiled in a pot, the end result is the same.
If you ask me this sport has gotten way too popular over the last 20 years and its not for the better. I see people all the time trying to "grow the sport" but I don't think its a good thing. Sure maybe that means more people to fight against proposed restrictions, but I don't think that balances out against all the extra attention it brings to the sport. I think the people trying to grow the sport usually have a financial incentive to do so. like everything when you involve money and profits altruism goes out the window very fast.
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Old 12-31-2019, 08:56 PM   #14
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Do you guys remember a few years ago, there was post of a guy taking vido of his buddy with a gun mounted go pro ,, clearly loaded..
Some one did chim in and scolded him , witch he needed... I do think alot of these kids acquire spearguns without proper firearms training,,, like I got from my dad starting when i was 10 .
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