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Old 03-17-2008, 02:40 AM   #16
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Re: Big Fish Pole Spear- Henley or Manny Puig?

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Another factor is how long you make the rubber because this determines how far up the pole you are cocking it and the length of pole that will be sticking out in front of your cocking hand (more important than you might think).
To expand on that, I use a much thinner rubber but cut for a 6' pole, so I can stretch it a good 6-7' out of the 9' on the pole and still have the penetrating power of the momentum. I do this because it is much easier in the thick kelp to have a short front end and a long tail trailing behind you in the gaps that you create than it is to have even ends and have to guide your pole around all the kelp. You can use that short front end to push kelp out of the way much easier than a longer end as well, since you don't need to apply as much force to it and it is much stiffer at short distances.

It also comes in handy when Im peering into cracks and caves looking for fish hiding in the back.
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:08 AM   #17
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:04 PM   #18
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Re: Big Fish Pole Spear- Henley or Manny Puig?

I bought the Manny Puig spear and immediately returned it when it arrived in the mail. I liked the idea behind his spear but at the time it was not what I want for around the jetties in NJ. I liked the way he tied his band though, but it was too thick, and a bitch to pull back. I want to try to make my own pole spear in the near future (i.e. when money is a little less tight), and I can find someone local (NJ or S. FL) that can machine some parts.

The Oceans In Action II video has a segment in Bermuda and the Bahamas and I saw a few guys using slip tips on their pole spears, and they seemed to work pretty well. Why the advice to not use one?
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:10 PM   #19
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The Oceans In Action II video has a segment in Bermuda and the Bahamas and I saw a few guys using slip tips on their pole spears, and they seemed to work pretty well. Why the advice to not use one?
If you shoot a fish and it rocks up, you can't get much leverage to get it out with a slip-tip. You can pretty much only pull straight out and pray that the fish lets go of its hold. With a fixed tip, you can use the length of the pole for leverage and you can use that leverage in all directions, such as working it towards one side or the other where there may be some more wiggle room to loosen the fish.

If you're going to be shooting fish that are not relating to the structure or do not have the tendency to rock up then I'd say a slip-tip is fine. If you're going to be shooting fish that like to rock up like grouper, why would you make it harder to retrieve the fish in the eventual case that it does rock up? That, at least, is my rationale as to why I use a fixed tip for that bottom reef fish oriented polespearing.
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:27 PM   #20
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Re: Big Fish Pole Spear- Henley or Manny Puig?

I am just going from what I saw. The only pole spears I have used have been a 4' 3point gig type spear, and 5.5' 5 prong trident for togs and triggers in NJ when I started.
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Old 03-22-2008, 02:28 AM   #21
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I am just going from what I saw. The only pole spears I have used have been a 4' 3point gig type spear, and 5.5' 5 prong trident for togs and triggers in NJ when I started.
I know, I was just answering your question about the the advice to not use a slip-tip.
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Old 05-16-2008, 03:29 PM   #22
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If you shoot a fish and it rocks up, you can't get much leverage to get it out with a slip-tip. You can pretty much only pull straight out and pray that the fish lets go of its hold. With a fixed tip, you can use the length of the pole for leverage and you can use that leverage in all directions, such as working it towards one side or the other where there may be some more wiggle room to loosen the fish.

If you're going to be shooting fish that are not relating to the structure or do not have the tendency to rock up then I'd say a slip-tip is fine. If you're going to be shooting fish that like to rock up like grouper, why would you make it harder to retrieve the fish in the eventual case that it does rock up? That, at least, is my rationale as to why I use a fixed tip for that bottom reef fish oriented polespearing.
I've almost broken poles trying to get leverage to retrieve a holed up grouper. What I was told by one of my dad's friends and have been doing for the last couple of years now is grabbing the grouper by the eyes. If you pinch a holed up grouper with your thumb and pointer finger right between the eyes he'll immediately give in and allow you to pull him out and usually not even struggle until you let him go. This method works like a charm, note you are not actually gouging out his eyes, but grabbing the bone near the front of the head and holding that.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:34 PM   #23
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Re: Big Fish Pole Spear- Henley or Manny Puig?

i use the sea stinger pole spear with the slip tip and i have yet to actually have a tautog use it.. either i stone them or they are on the actually pole that thing has quite a bit of power behind it with a custom band.... when the bass come in
then ill let you know... i have got some with a 3 prong before... cant wait to see how it holds up
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Old 08-14-2008, 02:39 PM   #24
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Re: Big Fish Pole Spear- Henley or Manny Puig?

I like the cheap fiberglass polespears (they work good). But my favorite is my 1 piece jbl (if you get a jbl get an extra band and double band it) I like the jbl because its easy to hold,cheap,lite, and deadly. just get a 1 piece jbl!! If I was to get a more expensive one I would get a Ray Odor 1 piece. they are only like $40 for a 6 footer.
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Old 08-14-2008, 03:00 PM   #25
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Re: Big Fish Pole Spear- Henley or Manny Puig?

Ed and Aaron,

I apologize for not thanking you earlier: I missed your replies 4 months ago. Thanks!
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Re: Big Fish Pole Spear- Henley or Manny Puig?

Any one know where to get a Henley pole spear slip tip I want a couple extras just incase
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Old 09-11-2014, 06:44 PM   #27
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Re: Big Fish Pole Spear- Henley or Manny Puig?

Shafts will get destroyed before tips. Depending on stay and size of fish and how you are at playing the fish once speared will determine what extras you should bring. For most week long Bahama trips, I would advise an extra shaft, slip-tip, cable, and band.

I know Florida Freedivers used to and may still carry Henley spears.
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Old 09-11-2014, 07:57 PM   #28
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Re: Big Fish Pole Spear- Henley or Manny Puig?

Crist are the most durable out there but pricey.
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Old 09-13-2014, 05:00 PM   #29
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Re: Big Fish Pole Spear- Henley or Manny Puig?

Anyone know if the jbl slip tip fits on the Henley pole spear I can't find anyone that sells the Henley slip tip anywhere I'd love a couple extra just incase for those just incases and flfreedivers don't as far as I can see on there site thanks brent please let me know thanks for all the help I always get some
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Re: Big Fish Pole Spear- Henley or Manny Puig?

JBL won't fit without a custom adapter and is far too lightweight. Call them don't wait for e-mail response or trust websites. Call ffl freedivers, Austin's or here http://www.yachtdiver.com/mobi/ they sale on ebay or here http://www.marineproducts.net/produc...le-Spears.html the company that makes them.
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