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Old 10-20-2016, 09:52 PM   #1
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My Carbo

Figured i would give guys something to read.
I don't get to dive much in the central Gulf where the big blacks mainly live in the deeper water or the lower west, and south coasts. I hadn't had the chance to pull the trigger on a black yet since i started shooting in '08. I was determined to make that happen one way or another on our fun couple days planned.

We went too the Keys for a few days grabbing up a few legal bugs in shallows along the inner coastal mainly. The winds were not what we anticipated for our planned few days, which had been planned 2 months in advanced.
Calling 4 - 7' ft. off the reefs, and 2 - 3's within the reef. I knew we were gonna have to man up, plan safe, and deal with the high seas if we wanted to drop in deeper. I knew we'd have too to get a decent fish.
Solid 20 - 25MPH wind kinda shook us a bit looking at the horizon watching the seas bulid. Of course we were the only crazy ones diving out off the reef that day. We were in a 27' Pro Cat which handled em' very well to my surprise. I recall several times the peak of the next wave being slightly higher than the tee top.
We arrived at our destination in 130' the bottom machine had a lot of life showing with the structure below. I knew there would be a really good chance a few blacks would be there, knowing not many have probably dove since the hurricane. Current was moving good with the full moon. With the conditions, i made sure we were all on our A Game before we rolled in.
Matt and I dropped straight down, 80' i could see bottom, and a 8'ft Bull swimming in to meet us. He kinda veered off and didnt see him again. I swam towards the dark structure in the distance, still angling down and i make out a pretty looking speckled head with dark black, fin tips looking at me.
I said to myself, " Finally". The species of fish i've always wanted to shoot since i got hooked on spearfishing.
Watching guys hold up big black grouper at St. Pete Open spearfishing tournaments, is what made me get certified.

The fish stared me down for about 5 secs. turned broadside and started to swim slightly, i put my custom 57" Deathstick out and held it on him in the kill zone, and waited till he turned for the killing angle, the black turned more and gave me the perfect 45 degree angle i wanted, " In soft, out hard" put it right behind the gills on the lateral line and punched through his spine breaking his back and out his face. Rolled em' then reloaded. it seemed like a lot of time, but it all happened in about 1 minute from rolling off the boat.
I watched Matt shoot his first black about a minute later about 8 lbs.
Myself, Matt, and Cameron, each shot a couple smaller blacks, muttons, mangos. Though the three of us got to shoot our first blacks on the same day. Pretty cool memory!
Its not a huge fish, but its a cool memory and experience with my good friends ill never forget.

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Old 10-20-2016, 10:23 PM   #2
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Good job. Enjoy the meals. The Keys are magical aren't they?
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Congrats of your first Carbo. Proper shot placement and shot angle are critical in shooting big Carbo's and you did it to perfection. Shooting your first Carbo is something you will likely always remember, but stoning your first Carbo is priceless!
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Old 10-21-2016, 07:32 AM   #4
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Great job, Brent! Glad you finally nailed one. And damn, are they not the tastiest of all the grouper?
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Old 10-21-2016, 11:17 AM   #5
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Great job, Brent! Glad you finally nailed one. And damn, are they not the tastiest of all the grouper?
No, scamp are better... and a lot easier to shoot.

Sounds like a great trip!😂
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Old 10-21-2016, 02:17 PM   #6
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Conqrats on a great day. Enjoyed reading the story!
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Old 10-21-2016, 02:56 PM   #7
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Figured i would give guys something to read.
I don't get to dive much in the central Gulf where the big blacks mainly live in the deeper water or the lower west, and south coasts. I hadn't had the chance to pull the trigger on a black yet since i started shooting in '08. I was determined to make that happen one way or another on our fun couple days planned.

We went too the Keys for a few days grabbing up a few legal bugs in shallows along the inner coastal mainly. The winds were not what we anticipated for our planned few days, which had been planned 2 months in advanced.
Calling 4 - 7' ft. off the reefs, and 2 - 3's within the reef. I knew we were gonna have to man up, plan safe, and deal with the high seas if we wanted to drop in deeper. I knew we'd have too to get a decent fish.
Solid 20 - 25MPH wind kinda shook us a bit looking at the horizon watching the seas bulid. Of course we were the only crazy ones diving out off the reef that day. We were in a 27' Pro Cat which handled em' very well to my surprise. I recall several times the peak of the next wave being slightly higher than the tee top.
We arrived at our destination in 130' the bottom machine had a lot of life showing with the structure below. I knew there would be a really good chance a few blacks would be there, knowing not many have probably dove since the hurricane. Current was moving good with the full moon. With the conditions, i made sure we were all on our A Game before we rolled in.
Matt and I dropped straight down, 80' i could see bottom, and a 8'ft Bull swimming in to meet us. He kinda veered off and didnt see him again. I swam towards the dark structure in the distance, still angling down and i make out a pretty looking speckled head with dark black, fin tips looking at me.
I said to myself, " Finally". The species of fish i've always wanted to shoot since i got hooked on spearfishing.
Watching guys hold up big black grouper at St. Pete Open spearfishing tournaments, is what made me get certified.

The fish stared me down for about 5 secs. turned broadside and started to swim slightly, i put my custom 57" Deathstick out and held it on him in the kill zone, and waited till he turned for the killing angle, the black turned more and gave me the perfect 45 degree angle i wanted, " In soft, out hard" put it right behind the gills on the lateral line and punched through his spine breaking his back and out his face. Rolled em' then reloaded. it seemed like a lot of time, but it all happened in about 1 minute from rolling off the boat.
I watched Matt shoot his first black about a minute later about 8 lbs.
Myself, Matt, and Cameron, each shot a couple smaller blacks, muttons, mangos. Though the three of us got to shoot our first blacks on the same day. Pretty cool memory!
Its not a huge fish, but its a cool memory and experience with my good friends ill never forget.

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Each shot a few blacks that day huh? that's great! problem is - you are allowed one per day per diver- and two reds.
I live in the keys and I used to make my primary living from commercial spearing- but you know what makes it hard to make a living doing that?
Out of town people - coming down and poaching fish.
You should atleast have the decency to not post a story about it on a public forum.
I know you probably thin i'm a dick - but I don't know what you do for a living- but if I was doing something illegal that cut into your livelihood and put our fishery at risk from overfishing- what would you say?
I don't see it as a big deal - I don't agree with the new fish limits and I think the fish cops use selective enforcement to waste thier time going after small time stuff (like guys like you) when things like the mutton spawn massacre goes on unchecked.- So I don't judge you - but maybe keep your criminal activity off the forums- especially when you are visiting an ara where you don't live- If you want to poach - atleast do it near YOUR house - not mine.
And we wonder why they had to make a law to make hogfish bigger for us locals - when it's you out of towners who kill all the baby hogs.
I bet if I could see your phone pics of all your catch that day - we would see a bunch of 11" hogs too?

where is that snitch - lobster lee when you need him? He is probably on the phone with the fwc right now- he called them on me once because he assumed I was out of the area I was licences to be (I wasn't but he tried ot snitch me out over a pic on facebook- so it CAN and DOES happen- watch what pics you post and check my local laws before you start killing all my barely legal blacks)
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Great job, Brent! Glad you finally nailed one. And damn, are they not the tastiest of all the grouper?
No..Scamp are far better.

But congrats on your first Carbo
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Old 10-21-2016, 03:38 PM   #9
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Each shot a few blacks that day huh? that's great! problem is - you are allowed one per day per diver- and two reds.
I live in the keys and I used to make my primary living from commercial spearing- but you know what makes it hard to make a living doing that?
Out of town people - coming down and poaching fish.
You should atleast have the decency to not post a story about it on a public forum.
I know you probably thin i'm a dick - but I don't know what you do for a living- but if I was doing something illegal that cut into your livelihood and put our fishery at risk from overfishing- what would you say?
I don't see it as a big deal - I don't agree with the new fish limits and I think the fish cops use selective enforcement to waste thier time going after small time stuff (like guys like you) when things like the mutton spawn massacre goes on unchecked.- So I don't judge you - but maybe keep your criminal activity off the forums- especially when you are visiting an ara where you don't live- If you want to poach - atleast do it near YOUR house - not mine.
And we wonder why they had to make a law to make hogfish bigger for us locals - when it's you out of towners who kill all the baby hogs.
I bet if I could see your phone pics of all your catch that day - we would see a bunch of 11" hogs too?

where is that snitch - lobster lee when you need him? He is probably on the phone with the fwc right now- he called them on me once because he assumed I was out of the area I was licences to be (I wasn't but he tried ot snitch me out over a pic on facebook- so it CAN and DOES happen- watch what pics you post and check my local laws before you start killing all my barely legal blacks)
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Are you serious?
Bro i commercial shoot the gulf all the time. I know the limits, i know the laws. lol
We each shot one black a day, we were in town for 4 days. We only shot 4 total in 4 days.....Whats your problem?

Guys like me know whats up. Most of your "Out of towners" couldnt hit a undersized hog anyways. And 11" hogs? Thats an insult too Me..... Never saw a single legal hog out of the 20 or so (11" ers) i saw in 4 days, when im used to shooting that many 12" - 20" on one drop at home where our hogs are healthy even with out of towners. I promise you i've shot more hogs than most on this forum in the short years iv been spearing. I went too several fisheries council meetings to give " My Vote " on raising the size limits too 14" on hogs because 12" is too small. It was your local commercial spearing, and fishing buddies who said YES too that one. Get your shit straight bro before you call someone out on a public forum.
Sorry to invade on your homewaters. Do you own the water? Do you own those fish? I dont give a flying FK if you own quota. Maybe you should have been out there that day to harvest like we did legally.
And to call me a poacher? Fck You!
Don't be a douchebag !
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What's weak is your post. Reminds me of a skit on SNL...Maybe you should change your avatar to this picture ....whaaaaa whaaaaa
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Each shot a few blacks that day huh? that's great! problem is - you are allowed one per day per diver- and two reds.
I live in the keys and I used to make my primary living from commercial spearing- but you know what makes it hard to make a living doing that?
Out of town people - coming down and poaching fish.
You should atleast have the decency to not post a story about it on a public forum.
I know you probably thin i'm a dick - but I don't know what you do for a living- but if I was doing something illegal that cut into your livelihood and put our fishery at risk from overfishing- what would you say?
I don't see it as a big deal - I don't agree with the new fish limits and I think the fish cops use selective enforcement to waste thier time going after small time stuff (like guys like you) when things like the mutton spawn massacre goes on unchecked.- So I don't judge you - but maybe keep your criminal activity off the forums- especially when you are visiting an ara where you don't live- If you want to poach - atleast do it near YOUR house - not mine.
And we wonder why they had to make a law to make hogfish bigger for us locals - when it's you out of towners who kill all the baby hogs.
I bet if I could see your phone pics of all your catch that day - we would see a bunch of 11" hogs too?

where is that snitch - lobster lee when you need him? He is probably on the phone with the fwc right now- he called them on me once because he assumed I was out of the area I was licences to be (I wasn't but he tried ot snitch me out over a pic on facebook- so it CAN and DOES happen- watch what pics you post and check my local laws before you start killing all my barely legal blacks)
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Great job, Brent! Glad you finally nailed one. And damn, are they not the tastiest of all the grouper?
Thanks Cuz!
Scamp are better!
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Old 10-21-2016, 09:21 PM   #13
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Figured i would give guys something to read.
I don't get to dive much in the central Gulf where the big blacks mainly live in the deeper water or the lower west, and south coasts. I hadn't had the chance to pull the trigger on a black yet since i started shooting in '08. I was determined to make that happen one way or another on our fun couple days planned.

We went too the Keys for a few days grabbing up a few legal bugs in shallows along the inner coastal mainly. The winds were not what we anticipated for our planned few days, which had been planned 2 months in advanced.
Calling 4 - 7' ft. off the reefs, and 2 - 3's within the reef. I knew we were gonna have to man up, plan safe, and deal with the high seas if we wanted to drop in deeper. I knew we'd have too to get a decent fish.
Solid 20 - 25MPH wind kinda shook us a bit looking at the horizon watching the seas bulid. Of course we were the only crazy ones diving out off the reef that day. We were in a 27' Pro Cat which handled em' very well to my surprise. I recall several times the peak of the next wave being slightly higher than the tee top.
We arrived at our destination in 130' the bottom machine had a lot of life showing with the structure below. I knew there would be a really good chance a few blacks would be there, knowing not many have probably dove since the hurricane. Current was moving good with the full moon. With the conditions, i made sure we were all on our A Game before we rolled in.
Matt and I dropped straight down, 80' i could see bottom, and a 8'ft Bull swimming in to meet us. He kinda veered off and didnt see him again. I swam towards the dark structure in the distance, still angling down and i make out a pretty looking speckled head with dark black, fin tips looking at me.
I said to myself, " Finally". The species of fish i've always wanted to shoot since i got hooked on spearfishing.
Watching guys hold up big black grouper at St. Pete Open spearfishing tournaments, is what made me get certified.

The fish stared me down for about 5 secs. turned broadside and started to swim slightly, i put my custom 57" Deathstick out and held it on him in the kill zone, and waited till he turned for the killing angle, the black turned more and gave me the perfect 45 degree angle i wanted, " In soft, out hard" put it right behind the gills on the lateral line and punched through his spine breaking his back and out his face. Rolled em' then reloaded. it seemed like a lot of time, but it all happened in about 1 minute from rolling off the boat.
I watched Matt shoot his first black about a minute later about 8 lbs.
Myself, Matt, and Cameron, each shot a couple smaller blacks, muttons, mangos. Though the three of us got to shoot our first blacks on the same day. Pretty cool memory!
Its not a huge fish, but its a cool memory and experience with my good friends ill never forget.

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I hope you weren't poaching- it was you who clearly told a story of shooting your black with the long story - then you typed the third from last sentence- "I watched Matt shoot his first black a minute later about 8 lbs. Myself Matt, and Cameron EACH shot a COUPLE smaller blacks" this was what you typed .
Either you meant to put it another way- or you were poaching.
You typed it.
So to recap - you told the detailed story about the nice black you got - then said each of you shot a couple smaller blacks.
I'm sure you are really a tough guy - despite what your pics would suggest - so I definatly don't want you mad at me- but you clearly said what you said- and it sounds like you each shot a couple smaller blacks- AFTER shooting your first one. It was either a typo or you don't know the rules.
I will apoligize for the hog comment- it was baseless and over the top.- But the multiple blacks IDK.

If it WAS a typo - it was YOUR typo- not mine. If you were poaching - then you deserve to be called out for putting it out there like that.-" Each got a couple smaller blacks" how does that read to you?
Either way- I will be the bad guy for calling it out- ID care if you like it. I live here.
Poach your own waters and I won't say a word.
You shoot commercial too huh? never got a black before though? hmmmmm
**** you too poacher .

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Thanks Cuz!
Scamp are better!
Can't wait to try one so I can see just how good it is - maybe some day!
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I hope you weren't poaching- it was you who clearly told a story of shooting your black with the long story - then you typed the third from last sentence- "I watched Matt shoot his first black a minute later about 8 lbs. Myself Matt, and Cameron EACH shot a COUPLE smaller blacks" this was what you typed .
Either you meant to put it another way- or you were poaching.
You typed it.
So to recap - you told the detailed story about the nice black you got - then said each of you shot a couple smaller blacks.
I'm sure you are really a tough guy - despite what your pics would suggest - so I definatly don't want you mad at me- but you clearly said what you said- and it sounds like you each shot a couple smaller blacks- AFTER shooting your first one. It was either a typo or you don't know the rules. Either way- I will be the bad guy for calling it out- ID care if you like it. I live here.
Poach your own waters and I won't say a word.
You shoot commercial too huh? never got a black before though? hmmmmm
The internet is horrible for reading comprehension. I know Brent and am related to him. He is one of the most responsible stewards of the ocean I've ever met. You are wrong here. I know you didn't intend to be confrontational or a dick, based on the facts as you saw them, and I agree it could be read the way you did. But you are wrong here. Let it drop, please.

I appreciate your passion here, and you are right to be upset by poachers, but Brent and his friends are not your enemy.
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