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03-31-2014, 08:06 AM | #1 |
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Is the US Navy banning diving on Military wrecks?
A proposed rule was recently filed and the public comment period of thirty days past, that may cause all diving on any military or government connected “sunken military craft” to require a permit from the Naval History and Heritage Command. This proposed rule slipped under our “radar” in the Department of Defense section of the Federal Register back in January. A gentleman with Wreck Diver magazine however did catch it and made the rounds at Beneath the Sea this weekend. He has compiled a few documents that explain what is being done by this rule and what can be done to halt the process to give more time for those affected by it to respond. If you would like a copy of these documents please email me. I have included several of the online available documents and other resources below.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2014...2013-31068.pdf http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online...tary_craft.pdf http://csc.noaa.gov/data/Documents/O...raft%20Act.pdf http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/org12-12a.htm https://www.federalregister.gov/arti...cted-at-sunken http://www.sba.gov/sites/default/fil...er%2013563.pdf http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/...ILITY%20ACT%22
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03-31-2014, 09:34 AM | #3 |
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Re: Is the US Navy banning diving on Military wrecks?
Why whats wrong with it, you cant walk into a strangers house without permission? Why should you be able to poke around somebody else's property without a proper permit?
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03-31-2014, 10:42 AM | #4 |
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Re: Is the US Navy banning diving on Military wrecks?
The Sunken Military Craft Act already protects the sites from poking. This proposed rule would require a permit, including a fee, to just visit the site. There is no exemption for divers in the proposed regulation.
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03-31-2014, 10:57 AM | #5 |
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Will you list a few examples of famous dive sites that would be affected?
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Texas Tower U.S.S. Murphy - DD-603 Sub Chaser SC-209 U.S.S. Turner - DD-648 U.S.S. Jacob Jones - DD-130 R.C. Mohawk Sub Chaser SC-635 "Bronx Queen" USS Akron - Airship ZR-4 ZPG-3W "Reliance" http://njscuba.net/sites/site_warships.html#ZPG-3W U.S.S. Bass - V-2 / SS-164 U.S.S. S-5 - SS-110 U.S.S. L-8 ( SS-48 ) U.S.S. G-2 ( SS-27 ) U.S.S. Spikefish ( SS-404 ) U.S.S. Blenny ( SS-324 ) http://njscuba.net/sites/site_submarines_1.html U-550 U-853 U-869 http://njscuba.net/sites/site_submarines_2.html
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03-31-2014, 11:45 AM | #7 |
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I don't know the locations. Are any of them on your list or otherwise in Florida or California that could be affected?
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TITLE XIV—SUNKEN MILITARY CRAFT SEC. 1401. PRESERVATION OF TITLE TO SUNKEN MILITARY CRAFT AND ASSOCIATED CONTENTS. Right, title, and interest of the United States in and to any United States sunken military craft— (1) shall not be extinguished except by an express divestiture of title by the United States; and (2) shall not be extinguished by the passage of time, regardless of when the sunken military craft sank. http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online...tary_craft.pdf Any "military craft" not sunk as an artificial reef.
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So, a big tourist dive site like the Spiegel Grove in the Florida Keys would not be included.
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03-31-2014, 02:25 PM | #10 |
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Would The Wilkes Barre, Kendrick be included? Big O?
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I don't support the proposed regulations. But I also don't support spreading misinformation. Mike
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03-31-2014, 04:16 PM | #12 | |
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Did you also read the definitions of "Disturb or Disturbance" and "Injure or injury"? We will no longer be permitted to hook into any "military craft"!
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I just called an archeologist friend of mine at the Navy and there is indeed some confusion by the public about what is going on. Basically, they explained to me this regulatory measure details the process for applying for permits enabled by the SMCA Act law. There is no prohibition on diving or requirement for a permit to dive these sites as you correctly stated. Divers still can't disturb the military wrecks without the permit already required by the Act. For further information, readers can call the Navy staff at (202) 685-1073. FYI, Tony
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A commercial dragger can obliterate a "military craft" wreck, yet a single diver can be fined up to $ 100,000.00. Why no written exemption for divers?
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The intent of this permitting system is directed at commercial salvors. And I would not be surprised if there is also some retribution directed at NOAA for the whole MONITOR funding fiasco, as now they would have to jump through a lot of hoops and deal with a lot of oversight when doing any work on USN wrecks. But that is just speculation....
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