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10-15-2015, 02:24 PM | #16 |
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Re: Recreational Harvest of Hogfish in South Atlantic Waters Closes on August 24, 201
The other other guy is whoever figured recreational anglers got in 2 months what they ha e in the last several years combined. Not that hog fish don't need a little help down south.
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10-15-2015, 02:49 PM | #17 |
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Re: Recreational Harvest of Hogfish in South Atlantic Waters Closes on August 24, 201
My suggestion to everyone is to check your state laws and forget about FEDERAL regulations!
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06-07-2016, 06:49 PM | #19 |
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Re: Recreational Harvest of Hogfish in South Atlantic Waters Closes on August 24, 201
Too easy to back door the fish with no paperwork. Not sayin all do, but I know that it is going on. Not fair to recs. I do not believe that recs harvested more Hogfish than comms here in GA. There are very few divers here that venture out to 100'. I harvest around 6 big ones a year. Most of them after August when they frequent water 90 to 110 feet. After around September, they move back out to deeper water. Now, our season is closed before it starts.
We are only allowed 3 Grouper per person per day only one can be a Gag or Black. We have only 2 Groupers common off of GA. Gags & Scamp. The Scamp are wiped out by the charter boats pretty early, so we are left with Gags. We are, effectively, only allowed 1 grouper per person per day. We only have Red Snapper in abundance here. Some others are available like vermilion & a Cubera now & then. There are so many Red Snapper, you almost can't get a shot at anything else! Closed indefinitely! Cobia? Closed. There is no reason to go out of Savannah except for Lionfish & Black Sea Bass! Not very fair that we are stuck with nothing while the comms keep on trucking. No, I do not think we will be following the SAFMC laws anymore. We know more about managing a sustainable fishery than all of those recently graduated, paid for government scientists. I guess it will be civil disobedience. Just an opinion. |
06-07-2016, 07:55 PM | #20 |
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Re: Recreational Harvest of Hogfish in South Atlantic Waters Closes on August 24, 201
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I was not very clear in my post, sorry about that. I was referring to the allocation in our area, which is from the Ga. Fl. border to shark point in the gulf (including Tortugas). Hogfish have been separated out into three different stocks -- NC. to Ga. -- Ga. Fl border to Shark point -- Shark point to Brownsville Texas. So, you are correct the Ga. NC stock is allocated to mostly commercial. But, the stock where I live (Fl, Keys) is allocated mainly to the recreational sector. And I do not know how the gulf stock was finally allocated. The entire hogfish issue is a disaster, which could have been avoided had the council (South Atlantic) acted appropriately years ago when the AP recommended a size limit increase. Everyone was in agreement that 12 inches was too small. But the council was determined to wait for a stock assessment to be completed and they got a negative assessment, something the AP hoped to avoid by being proactive with a modest size limit increase. Once again, common sense has no place in fisheries management. Unless it can be factored into a highly complex stock assessment equation -- it is useless information. Don |
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06-08-2016, 01:16 PM | #22 | |
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As to minimum size limit. I agree with you. I think 15" is probably a good target for the Keys, but they can't do that overnight or the entire thing will shut down. They need to go up to 13" for 2 years, 14" for 2 years, and then settle at 15" and let that bake in to see what happens. But if they go to 16" overnight, that virtually closes the fishery in the keys from my own observations. |
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06-08-2016, 02:14 PM | #23 | |
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As far as the size limit increase we did recommend an incremental size increase as you suggested, but it obviously fell on deaf ears with the Council. I am still a bit ticked off about the hogfish fiasco and the council as we tried to avoid this at the AP level numerous times, but got nowhere. I am not on the AP any longer as the Council finally imposed term limits. So, after 26 years of being on the snapper/grouper AP (no pay) I am off. I think it is good to get new faces and new ideas, and I have no problem with term limits. Now, if we could just get term limits imposed for the US Congress! Last edited by Summerland Key; 06-08-2016 at 05:18 PM. |
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