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Old 05-07-2018, 01:53 PM   #1
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Who went out for Hogfish, any thoughts???

With all the bad weather finally made it out for the first time since opening of Hogfish. I know the season is relatively new, but is anyone seeing bigger fish at this point. I'm in islamorada and hadn't seen fish worth shooting in years. First day in the water shot a beautiful fish in 35'. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm all for limited numbers and increasing size limits if it produces bigger fish. In a couple years wouldn't mind if they raised the minimum size limit at least 18", thoughts?
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Old 05-07-2018, 03:53 PM   #2
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Re: Who went out for Hogfish, any thoughts???

I was more excited for Grouper opening..
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Old 05-07-2018, 09:32 PM   #3
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Re: Who went out for Hogfish, any thoughts???

Crazy to think a long time ago you could limit on hogs with a pole spear in less than an hour. Now to have it come to this is a sad state of affairs. I hope that the population rebounds and that its managed for its longevity and health. Sounds like its headed in the right direction.
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Old 05-08-2018, 10:34 AM   #4
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Re: Who went out for Hogfish, any thoughts???

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Crazy to think a long time ago you could limit on hogs with a pole spear in less than an hour. Now to have it come to this is a sad state of affairs. I hope that the population rebounds and that its managed for its longevity and health. Sounds like its headed in the right direction.
You could pretty reliably get a limit of hogs on patch reefs off Miami in an hour last year, trouble is they would have been 12-14" fish.

Hopefully we see more and larger fish in the coming years, there are some nice hogfish out there, just takes putting in the time in the water to find them. Black grouper have certainly made a comeback in this area and I'm hopeful hogfish will too.
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Old 05-13-2018, 01:07 AM   #5
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Re: Who went out for Hogfish, any thoughts???

I tried finding the article and I can't find it but this was the most interesting part.

In remote areas of the Caribbean where there isn't much fishing pressure, Hogfish reach sexual maturity at around 16". Meaning you won't see a male Hogfish anywhere that's under 16".

Here, both Miami and the keys you see a ton of 12" male hogs because they have adapted to mature quickly before there killed. They barely have a chance to reproduce once in there life.

I feel as though they should also raise the size limit for black grouper. They don't sexually mature till around 28". You can tell how there body shape changes. A 24" black is slim like a Mangrove, once they reach sexual maturity there head is wider than the rest of there body.
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Old 05-13-2018, 07:23 AM   #6
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I tried finding the article and I can't find it but this was the most interesting part.


I feel as though they should also raise the size limit for black grouper. They don't sexually mature till around 28". You can tell how there body shape changes. A 24" black is slim like a Mangrove, once they reach sexual maturity there head is wider than the rest of there body.
with all due respect - keep that shit to yourself! if they take away black grouper too - the keys wont be worth living in - to dive anymore. Keep the enviro nuts off the subject of black grouper please!
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Old 05-13-2018, 07:32 AM   #7
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with all due respect - keep that shit to yourself! if they take away black grouper too - the keys wont be worth living in - to dive anymore. Keep the enviro nuts off the subject of black grouper please!
Who said anything about "taking away black grouper too"?

I said raising the legal size limit to 28"

With all due respect, if you can't shoot black groupers in the keys over 28" then you just suck at spearfishing.
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Old 05-13-2018, 10:24 AM   #8
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Re: Who went out for Hogfish, any thoughts???

Hogfish size limit was increased not long ago, for good reason IMO. Anything below 15" is a waste.
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Old 05-13-2018, 01:43 PM   #9
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Re: Who went out for Hogfish, any thoughts???

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I tried finding the article and I can't find it but this was the most interesting part.

In remote areas of the Caribbean where there isn't much fishing pressure, Hogfish reach sexual maturity at around 16". Meaning you won't see a male Hogfish anywhere that's under 16".

Here, both Miami and the keys you see a ton of 12" male hogs because they have adapted to mature quickly before there killed. They barely have a chance to reproduce once in there life.

I feel as though they should also raise the size limit for black grouper. They don't sexually mature till around 28". You can tell how there body shape changes. A 24" black is slim like a Mangrove, once they reach sexual maturity there head is wider than the rest of there body.
Hogfish are somewhat unique in this regard. Many other fish are the other way around with females being the larger of the species which is why we see slot limits for fish like snook allowing larger females to survive and breed because they are capable of producing exponentially more eggs. Same for grouper I believe although they change sex throughout their life. Also interesting with hogfish is that they form harems with a single male shepherding a group of females. When you spear the male, one of those females will then become a male - and this can happen when they're still quite small.

Black grouper limits are already fairly tight at 1 per person, I know there are days when I dive here in Miami in the winter when the season is closed and see lots of legal black sized black grouper some even over 30lbs, something I never saw before the regulation changes. Of course come May 1st theyre all off to deeper water to hide
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:53 AM   #10
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Re: Who went out for Hogfish, any thoughts???

I am happy with the new regs. I've shot nice ones each of the 3 times ive been out. largest was 7lbs.

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Old 05-16-2018, 12:16 PM   #11
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few fatties from thursday. School of five extra jumbos. by the time the second one got hit the rest hauled ass! Second picture was from monday.

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Re: Who went out for Hogfish, any thoughts???

I think the black grouper are eating all the hog fish because that’s all I’m finding this “hog fish season”
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Beautiful fish.
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Old 05-24-2018, 07:14 PM   #14
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Re: Who went out for Hogfish, any thoughts???

Shot my commercial limit of hog fish today with only 4 fish, biggest was 9 pounds. Lots and lots of 12-16” hogs

Can also confirm that black grouper are eating the hogs. 30 pounder today had a 15” male in his gut.
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Re: Who went out for Hogfish, any thoughts???

Thats awesome! Black I shot last week had nothing in its stomach strangely. However it was only 12 lbs.
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