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12-30-2011, 08:05 AM | #76 |
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Re: Spearing Dogtooth Tuna
Eric hope you ll achieve yr goal ..
for the Qatar emir , we did guide him too over here ... for the WR regulations ..do not forget that it is a commitee from 9 members ( as far as i know for IUSA ) that votes and at the end decide to issue a WR or not ...and in the case from tanzania / zanzibar / latham the situation might be difficult to appreciate from far away and could be confusing .. Last edited by z1taz; 12-31-2011 at 12:30 PM. |
01-02-2012, 10:51 PM | #77 | |
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01-02-2012, 11:36 PM | #78 |
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Here are a few things that I have picked up over the past few years about hunting Doggies. I have only hunted the Pacific for them, so they may not work in another part of the world.
Doggies love flashers. One of the best ways we have found to get them to come in is to drop a large (12" square) flasher over the reef drop-off. Most flashers work by hanging them a few feet below the surface- not so here. What works for me is to tie off the flasher to a long length of line- the idea is to drop the flasher, let it get about 30' down, and then dive after it down as deep as you can go. Often the really big tuna are down deep, and this is the best way I know to get them to come up into range. Don't waste your time with scaning from the surface- Even in clear water, Doggies are really hard to spot. Spend as much time (as saftey allows) down deep looking for them. Just about every big tuna I have seen has been on blind drops, either diving after the flasher or diving into a "hot" looking reef with a lot of bait stacked up. Dive the spots that hold fish. This is true no matter where you dive, and is true even on a small patch of reef. Doggies love deep drop offs with lots of current- stick to these areas, even if it means making 20 or more dives on one spot. Look for baitfish "clouds" hanging out. Often they will hang over a single rock or coral head- I try to work these areas hard, even if it means making quite a few blind drops. Just my opinions, hope it helps |
01-03-2012, 09:48 AM | #79 |
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Very interesting thread. Thanks guys!
I've been hunting for doggies for the first time in the bali/penida area last october and couldnt land any decent size one... My option was the 'agachon': waiting for the fish, lying on the bottom. This is my favorite technique and the most effective one in most areas Im used to spearfish (Med, atlantic french cost and carribeans). I didnt use flasher or burley as Andre (from bali spearfishing) told me it was not necesary in this area due to the strong currents... I achieved to make some fish coming to have a look at me but they never came really close. In this case, should I have tried another dive (not to spook the fish and hoping he'll be still here next dive) or tried to swim to get closer? I just took one 'far' shot on a really big fish and lost him... Another question to the specialists: is it better to wait for the fish like I did (dives of a bit more than 2 min in 50 to 70 ft) or to go deeper (not more than 90 ft for me), have a quick look and go up? REALLY frustrating fish! I didnt land any fish, while my mates, pretty much beginners, were shooting big GTs, nice rainbow runners... |
01-03-2012, 11:31 PM | #80 |
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01-04-2012, 12:19 AM | #81 | |
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We are going to concentrate on St. Lazarus Bank in northern Mozambique for the next couple of months were we are first doing an exploratory trip in Feb and then running a couple of charters in March and April. I've not been there but seen pics and read stories on websites, and spoken to local sport fishermen about the place. One of our clients was there in 2007 for a few hours while passing through on a yacht and said it was absolutely amazing. Doggies on every drift, usually in threes, always with one massive one. Can't wait to see what will work there and how it will differ to Latham Island in Tanzania. Cheers |
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01-04-2012, 09:57 PM | #82 |
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01-07-2012, 07:53 AM | #84 | |
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Hi guys/Eric, I often travel to Tanzania and I have heard about this whole issue. I also know that sometime back in November 2011 the Tanzanian Fisheries, together with the Militry and the Marine Police stoped your boats while they where spearfishing al Latham with your clients and they confiscated all the guns. My friends where at one of the biggest Yacht Clubs there in Tanzania and saw when the officials landed with all the guns confiscated. Apparently it is not the first time they tried to stop your boats but you have been evading them by running away. Would your licenses be valid as you claim, it is difficult to believe that they could confiscate the guns and persevere in trying to stop your boats. ??? Fred |
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I've been using to dive with M'Zed in Comoros... This guy has a long/ double/ exceptional experience in fishing as a pro and spearing in all the Indian Ocean, off the Mozambic/ Tanzanian coasts in particular. He told me he stopped years ago spearfishing on the Tanzania coast, including Latham Island (one of the top fishing destination in the area) because it has been banned for years by the authorities. Why? mainly because considering the lack of affording a costly sea surveillance and licences checking made by the marine police, the authorities prefered purely and simply to prohibit spearing on the whole Tanzania territory...
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01-07-2012, 05:38 PM | #86 | |
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01-08-2012, 03:04 AM | #87 | |
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Thanks for your interest in the Latham Island - spear fishing legality saga. In all fairness to those reading this thread for the hunting part of these amazing fish, I am going to start a new thread under the general discussions so that we can concentrate here on the hunting part of doggies. Please check for my answer under the general discussions. Cheers |
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01-08-2012, 03:11 AM | #88 |
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To all you keen Dogtooth Tuna hunters, have a look at some of the results of our just ended Dogtooth Tuna season;
http://www.extremebluewaterspearfish...llery2011.html Scroll to the bottom for the doggie pics. |
01-08-2012, 11:36 AM | #89 |
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~~ Taz said it all, However my recommendation is a Barret 50 Cal.
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01-08-2012, 05:15 PM | #90 |
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