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Old 01-05-2010, 09:25 PM   #1
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Saltwater fishing license for MA in 2010

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Old 01-06-2010, 02:42 PM   #2
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Re: Saltwater fishing license for MA in 2010

So, if I am registered in RI and fish in MA, I need a MA license as well?
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Never thought of that, you would think one license would work in all states or at least bordering states.
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:13 PM   #4
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Re: Saltwater fishing license for MA in 2010

The fee is small, but the whole thing already seems a hassle and I am concerned what it may evolve into: Once they introduce this fee, hire people to process it. These people would inevitably start pushing for more responsibilities so they can earn more money, have more clout and appear more indispensible for the public good and fulfilling these new responsibilities would require bigger budget and larger fees and more regulations and so on and on.
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:16 PM   #5
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I see why MA is pushing their own license instead of the Federal one, they want to keep the money in the state. If they use the funds in the same way they use money collected from hunting licenses it could prove to be a good thing but its wait and see until then.
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Re: Saltwater fishing license for MA in 2010

The only States left to register Federally are Maine, New Jersey and Virginia. Rhode Island's Legislature just overrode their Governor's veto of their saltwater license bill yesterday. Both New Hampshire and Massachusetts have passed licenses that will take effect in 2011.
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:40 PM   #7
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You need to register in 2010 w. NMFS at the below link and Mass will start charging in 2011, $10 I think. I think most states will recognize other state permits so multiple permits will not be needed (regionally at least). There were some issues with RI of course. I pay my waterfowl stamps, hunting permit, archery stamps, primitive stamps, freshwater license, not too worried about adding a saltwater license. I think it'll most negatively affect those on vacation interested in picking up a pole and throwing out a piece of squid. The hook and line sites have a ton of talk on this.

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1/5/2010 Assembly enacts saltwater fishing license over veto

STATE HOUSE – Faced with federal regulations that otherwise would have imposed a higher fee on local fishermen, legislators today voted to override the governor’s veto to create the Ocean State’s first recreational saltwater fishing license.

The license, which will cost $7 for state residents, will be required for those fishing recreationally in the coastal waters of Rhode Island. Lawmakers said failure to enact the legislation (2009-S 0969Aaa, 2009-H 6226aa) would cost local fisherman more because they would otherwise be subject to a new federal license that would cost several times what the state license would cost and would not allow them to fish in neighboring states.

“Access to the shore and to fishing is so sacred here in Rhode Island that it is protected specifically in the state’s constitution. We have long been loath to do anything to curb that freedom, but federal law supercedes state law. A license is going to be required by the federal government if we don’t have our own. This legislation is a solution that brings Rhode Island into compliance with the federal law in a way that costs our fishermen as little as possible,” said Senator Lenihan (D-Dist. 35, East Greenwich, North Kingstown, Warwick).

In his veto message, the governor stated that fishing is a birthright of all Rhode Islanders, and that people who occasionally take their children fishing should not be subject to a fee.

However, the new federal law requires the registration of all saltwater fishermen nationwide so regulators will have access to their contact information when conducting surveys on fish catches. States without their own licensing programs will be required to use the more expensive federal license. A committee that included representatives from the Department of Environmental Management’s Fish and Wildlife Division, the Rhode Island Saltwater Anglers Association and others spent months developing the proposal in response to the federal requirement.

The bill’s sponsors say the new program is an effort to save fishermen money and cooperate with national efforts to study and preserve fisheries.

“This legislation was the result of a year of work by anglers and state agencies who sought to preserve Rhode Islanders’ fishing rights and keep their costs low while complying with the new federal regulations,” said Representative Kilmartin (D-Dist.61, Pawtucket). “Without this bill, this summer Rhode Island anglers would be paying $60 to Connecticut and $10 to Massachusetts. Now we have reciprocity, which means those with a Rhode Island license can legally fish in those states, too,”

Rhode Island has long required licenses for freshwater fishing. Those licenses currently cost $18 and, like their new saltwater counterpart, help to provide funding to programs that support the healthy fisheries and access to them.

The license will not be required for commercial fishermen, those under 16, the blind or disabled or those on leave from active military service. Those who hold a federal recreational fishing license or a license from a state with which Rhode Island agrees to have license reciprocity will also be exempt.

The license will cost $7 for state residents, $10 for those who don’t live in Rhode Island, and will be free for residents who are 65 or older or in active military service. Seven-day licenses would also be offered for $5 for both residents and nonresidents. Like freshwater licenses, they will be available at bait shops and retailers.

Those fishing in violation of the chapter would be guilty of a civil infraction and would be fined $10 for the first offense, $50 for the second and $100 each for subsequent offenses. The money raised will fund administration of the licensing program and support fisheries management and improvement.

For more information, contact:
Meredyth R. Waterman, Publicist
State House Room 20
Providence, RI 02903
(401) 222-2457


http://www.rilin.state.ri.us/News/pr1.asp?prid=6042
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:41 PM   #9
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1/5/2010 Assembly enacts saltwater fishing license over veto

STATE HOUSE – Faced with federal regulations that otherwise would have imposed a higher fee on local fishermen, legislators today voted to override the governor’s veto to create the Ocean State’s first recreational saltwater fishing license.

The license, which will cost $7 for state residents, will be required for those fishing recreationally in the coastal waters of Rhode Island. Lawmakers said failure to enact the legislation (2009-S 0969Aaa, 2009-H 6226aa) would cost local fisherman more because they would otherwise be subject to a new federal license that would cost several times what the state license would cost and would not allow them to fish in neighboring states.

“Access to the shore and to fishing is so sacred here in Rhode Island that it is protected specifically in the state’s constitution. We have long been loath to do anything to curb that freedom, but federal law supercedes state law. A license is going to be required by the federal government if we don’t have our own. This legislation is a solution that brings Rhode Island into compliance with the federal law in a way that costs our fishermen as little as possible,” said Senator Lenihan (D-Dist. 35, East Greenwich, North Kingstown, Warwick).

In his veto message, the governor stated that fishing is a birthright of all Rhode Islanders, and that people who occasionally take their children fishing should not be subject to a fee.

However, the new federal law requires the registration of all saltwater fishermen nationwide so regulators will have access to their contact information when conducting surveys on fish catches. States without their own licensing programs will be required to use the more expensive federal license. A committee that included representatives from the Department of Environmental Management’s Fish and Wildlife Division, the Rhode Island Saltwater Anglers Association and others spent months developing the proposal in response to the federal requirement.

The bill’s sponsors say the new program is an effort to save fishermen money and cooperate with national efforts to study and preserve fisheries.

“This legislation was the result of a year of work by anglers and state agencies who sought to preserve Rhode Islanders’ fishing rights and keep their costs low while complying with the new federal regulations,” said Representative Kilmartin (D-Dist.61, Pawtucket). “Without this bill, this summer Rhode Island anglers would be paying $60 to Connecticut and $10 to Massachusetts. Now we have reciprocity, which means those with a Rhode Island license can legally fish in those states, too,”

Rhode Island has long required licenses for freshwater fishing. Those licenses currently cost $18 and, like their new saltwater counterpart, help to provide funding to programs that support the healthy fisheries and access to them.

The license will not be required for commercial fishermen, those under 16, the blind or disabled or those on leave from active military service. Those who hold a federal recreational fishing license or a license from a state with which Rhode Island agrees to have license reciprocity will also be exempt.

The license will cost $7 for state residents, $10 for those who don’t live in Rhode Island, and will be free for residents who are 65 or older or in active military service. Seven-day licenses would also be offered for $5 for both residents and nonresidents. Like freshwater licenses, they will be available at bait shops and retailers.

Those fishing in violation of the chapter would be guilty of a civil infraction and would be fined $10 for the first offense, $50 for the second and $100 each for subsequent offenses. The money raised will fund administration of the licensing program and support fisheries management and improvement.

For more information, contact:
Meredyth R. Waterman, Publicist
State House Room 20
Providence, RI 02903
(401) 222-2457


http://www.rilin.state.ri.us/News/pr1.asp?prid=6042
So if I'm out trolling with a couple guys and we bring some girls out on the boat with us....are the girls going to get a fine for fishing without a liscense? How does that work in other states?
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So if I'm out trolling with a couple guys and we bring some girls out on the boat with us....are the girls going to get a fine for fishing without a liscense? How does that work in other states?
Depends on the amount of gear visible on the deck.
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Old 01-07-2010, 05:20 PM   #11
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On 2nd thought since I can't shoot bass and I'm not shooting smelt I don't need to register with NMFS this year.
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you dont go for blues and bass with H&L?
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Old 01-07-2010, 08:39 PM   #13
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Not these days, I just crawl in over the rocks and out over the rocks. Once Mass does the full shebang I'll be on the hook.
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The saltwater license of other states will be recognized within MA if those states recognize the MA license in their respective states.
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