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03-02-2009, 05:28 PM | #46 |
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Re: Free-Diving Pony Bottle Use for Emergencies?
[/url][quote=jfjf;883905]I was actually quizing my 10 yr old on this same example tonight. 100 feet is not 3 atmospheres; it is 4.
That's correct... 4 counting the one atmosphere on the surface. That Zeagle system that I think they were referring to is not for breathing. A small bottle is intergrated onto the weight belt for aiding in ascents, leveling off at depths and, I guess, floating on the surface. Go to www.floridaspearfishing.com. Zeagle also has really small pony bottles? I wouldn't take chances. Get something substantial if you are going to do that! Great Conversation....... Why people get angry is beyond me! |
03-03-2009, 12:27 PM | #47 | |
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Re: Free-Diving Pony Bottle Use for Emergencies?
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Maybe if I could test a few of them out beforehand... But then that gets expensive. -Paul |
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03-03-2009, 02:14 PM | #48 | |
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03-05-2009, 12:38 AM | #49 |
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Re: Free-Diving Pony Bottle Use for Emergencies?
I wouldn't touch this one with a 10' pole...
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03-05-2009, 08:26 AM | #50 |
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Re: Free-Diving Pony Bottle Use for Emergencies?
Nope, Can't happen. As long as you are wearing really long fins, have a snorkel and carry the small bottle in your hands, the expanding air in the lungs can do no damage. It is completely different from actual scuba diving.
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03-05-2009, 10:59 AM | #51 | |
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On another note: I have a aluminum finish(no paint) 6cf Luxfer bottle with a yoke valve, and a button gauge for your 1st stage, I'll sell for any reasonable offer. I used to use it for a scuba pony to 80 or so ft. It worked fine for that. I definalty can get more than 30 seconds out of it. And on another note: It is pitiful how many people are just blowing hard on this thread! Does anyone read the posts, or do they just read the title and tell us all how it's done. Half the posters here obviously don't even know it's a freediving based thread. MORONS |
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03-05-2009, 12:10 PM | #52 | |
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Re: Free-Diving Pony Bottle Use for Emergencies?
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PLEASE say you are Joking!!!!! FOR the RECORD!!! If you fill your lungs at depth (even a ft or two of depth!!!) and hold your breath on ascent; YOU WILL EMBOLISE and likely die! |
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03-05-2009, 01:54 PM | #53 | |
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03-05-2009, 05:44 PM | #54 | ||
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Re: Free-Diving Pony Bottle Use for Emergencies?
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I think you are joking, but even making such a statement like this in a public forum shows what a dumba$$ you are, someone may believe what you are saying and get hurt or killed trying it. After you delete my comments and kick me off the board, you should remove all reference to your stupid comment. |
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03-12-2009, 11:11 PM | #55 | |
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03-13-2009, 07:44 AM | #56 |
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Re: Free-Diving Pony Bottle Use for Emergencies?
Hello,
I'm not claiming to be some expert but I just got done taking a Freediving course with Martin Stepanek and he said that freediving and pony bottles are a VERY dangerous combination!! Stay clear of that. Scuba is Scuba and freediving is freediving. There is clear science to why not to do that!! Be safe, Errol |
03-13-2009, 07:55 AM | #57 | |
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03-14-2009, 01:16 AM | #58 | |
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Re: Free-Diving Pony Bottle Use for Emergencies?
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I have a rule of 8's that I follow. When I crack 80 feet, I make sure that my breath time on the surface is at least 8 minutes. I believe that this allows my body to rid itself of a fair amount of nitrogen before my next dive. Those 8 minutes are LONG though. Did I guess right? -Paul |
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03-14-2009, 08:40 AM | #59 |
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Re: Free-Diving Pony Bottle Use for Emergencies?
I don't know why it's so hard for some to express themselves but: As a freediver you WON'T have to worry about lung expansion, upon accent, WITHOUT the use of a pony bottle. BUT, If your going to take a breath at depth off a pony bottle, while freediving, realize you will now have to exhale throughout your accent. You have changed the entire game. You had absolutly no more than one atmosphere in your lungs as a pure freediver. Now, using the pony for even one extra breath, you have alot more than that one atmosphere in your lungs and you better dump it as you accend as it expands. Not exhaling could be very dangerous to your lungs with 2 or 3 or 4 atmospheres not being released as you accend.
I know this is all basics, but it seems many were having a hard time and someone had to say it. |
03-14-2009, 09:17 AM | #60 |
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Re: Free-Diving Pony Bottle Use for Emergencies?
This thread is now a Bashboard classic! Can we get a sticky?
This one seems to be kinda winding down now. So maybe we should start a thread on the merits of scuba v. free diving? Some people just aren't happy unless they're really pissed off. |
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