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06-22-2020, 11:59 AM | #1 |
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Carbon tuna guns
I wonder if you guys can educate me about the differences between carbon guns to hunt large pelagics like tuna or wahoo.
I am considering two choices: a higher end monocoque gun like the oceanborn 145, https://www.diveshop.gr/index.php/bl...editionle.html, or a non-monocoque option like the Picasso Magnum 140 (switching to an 8mm shaft with slip tip. I have the aluminum version of this gun) https://megasub.com/index.php?route=...roduct_id=1104 The oceanborn is undoubtedly a higher quality piece, but my question is on the performance differences between these two models when hunting large pelagics Thanks for your insights! |
06-23-2020, 04:52 AM | #2 | |
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Telling by the specs I guess the Picasso is going to be much ligther, and therefore a less stable platform to shoot such a heavy shaft. Also, be aware that the shaft might be too heavy for that gun and be tiring on the wrist to move arround, track, etc. It could also kick like a mule. Mikel |
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06-23-2020, 07:04 PM | #3 | |
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06-24-2020, 06:17 AM | #4 | |
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Now, regarding profiles, and considering that some shapes are more hidrodynamic than others, I think that a flatter-cuttlefish-shaped barrel is going to move arround (sideways) much better than a round or square barrel. Think Abellan profile for example. Also keep in mind that with long guns you usually keep it tucked to your body, use one hand on the handle and the other one in the middle of the gun to turn/rotate it and then extend your hand to do the final aim and shot. It is not like you are trying to track the fish with the arm extended using only your hand holding wrist. With this in mind, I guess the Oceanborn is a better choice. Mikel |
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06-24-2020, 09:33 AM | #5 |
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Unless the OB trigger mech got replaced by a higher quality, properly functioning one, I would recommend do not purchase one. Much better big fish guns out there cheaper than it anyways.
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06-24-2020, 03:23 PM | #6 | |
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Awesome, very good points Mikel! I do use both hands as you describe to track the big pipe gun, but not always keep it close enough to my body. Do you think effective shooting range is much different between the two? |
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06-24-2020, 03:27 PM | #7 | |
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Great that you know of better, cheaper options! What other carbon guns would you recommend? Not considering wood at this point. |
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06-24-2020, 03:53 PM | #8 |
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http://www.trygons.com/fishing/spearguns
Not sure about the reel, but looks a substantial gun. |
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06-24-2020, 04:13 PM | #10 | |
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Moving the bulk of the gun closer to the handle improves the gun's turning which is what C4 and others have done. You cannot do that with a pipe gun. |
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06-24-2020, 04:21 PM | #11 |
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06-24-2020, 08:36 PM | #12 | |
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Good insights, thanks a lot! That briante also looks great, I'll look into it. I suspect it's pretty expensive lol |
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06-25-2020, 01:35 AM | #13 | |
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Trygone spearguns are HUGE beasts of a gun. I dont understand how a person could handle such a gun. You are going to find that railgun shape handle better than any other gun. I've learned the hard way (money spent) that these cuddlefish shapes are nothing but hype and handle terribly especially in current. Any railgun you can put 3 bands on and shoot an 8mm shaft will work for your needs. |
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06-25-2020, 06:37 AM | #14 |
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You and the gun are moving in the current as well as the fish, so motions are relative. If you turn into a current or are hanging onto something then current will have an effect on you and the gun. Same as with surge down near the bottom, everything swings back and forth, but so do the fish in the immediate vicinity.
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