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Old 11-12-2010, 09:24 PM   #1
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A Republican president who reduced the deficit

I've been wondering about this for a while. I'm 27, and maybe naive, but in my life time I don't really know a Republican president who ever reduced the deficit.

Am I missing something? If so, let me know, seriously.

If this is the case, why should we expect another Republican president would reduce the deficit?

Why should I believe it?
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Old 11-12-2010, 09:36 PM   #2
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Re: A Republican president who reduced the deficit

Eisenhower in the 1950's. And it was a republican congress that reduced the deficit when clinton was president. Reducing the deficit is not capable with one person.

Maybe the republicans are due.
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Old 11-12-2010, 10:11 PM   #3
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Re: A Republican president who reduced the deficit

All the info you need here. Not sure what Robert is talking about..

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Q talks out his ass so you can't listen to him.
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Old 11-12-2010, 11:37 PM   #5
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Q talks out his ass so you can't listen to him.
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Old 11-13-2010, 12:32 AM   #6
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Old 11-13-2010, 11:11 AM   #7
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Eisenhower in the 1950's.
Its laughable to cite Eisenhower as a Republican in this day and age. Today's Republicans would consider him a left wing liberal. He cautioned against the military-industrial complex, while todays GOP thinks big business can do no wrong. He sent Federal troops to Little Rock to enforce segregation. Today's GOP would call that big government intrusion on a local matter, and the first step to dictatorship. The Tea Party would go absolutely nuts over it.

Even Nixon wouldn't stand a chance of being nominated by the party today. Hell, he imposed wage and price controls.

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Its laughable to cite Eisenhower as a Republican in this day and age. Today's Republicans would consider him a left wing liberal. Hr cautioned against the military-industrial complex, while todays GOP thinks big business can do no wrong. He sent Federal troops to Little Rock to enforce segregation. Today's GOP would call that big government intrusion on a local matter, and the first step to dictatorship. The Tea Party would go absolutely nuts over it.

Even Nixon wouldn't stand a chance of being nominated by the party today. Hell, he imposed wage and price controls.
That is why I am an independent.
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Old 11-13-2010, 02:29 PM   #9
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Its laughable to cite Eisenhower as a Republican in this day and age. Today's Republicans would consider him a left wing liberal. He cautioned against the military-industrial complex, while todays GOP thinks big business can do no wrong. He sent Federal troops to Little Rock to enforce segregation. Today's GOP would call that big government intrusion on a local matter, and the first step to dictatorship. The Tea Party would go absolutely nuts over it.

Even Nixon wouldn't stand a chance of being nominated by the party today. Hell, he imposed wage and price controls.
Eisenhower wrote the civil rights bill which LBJ and the Sothern Democrats blocked causing the riots in the south. He was trying to stop the riots caused by the racist Democrats.
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Old 11-13-2010, 04:36 PM   #10
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Re: A Republican president who reduced the deficit

Was there a democrat that reduced the deficit?
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Re: A Republican president who reduced the deficit

There were budget surpluses and a reduction of federal public debt during Clinton's second term.
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Old 11-13-2010, 05:14 PM   #12
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There were budget surpluses and a reduction of federal public debt during Clinton's second term.
That's a myth.

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Old 11-13-2010, 05:39 PM   #13
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Even if it was, which it wasn't (see Q's link), what does that matter?

Regardless of what went on in Clinton's presidency, it doesn't change the fact that in my life time our national debt went up the most under Republican presidents. This includes Regan, who is the poster boy for conservatives.

I'm just wondering what peoples' thought are on this. All this talk nowadays from conservatives about reducing the deficit - if they've only increased my whole life, why should I believe they're gonna lower it now?

BTW, thanks a lot for that link Q, very interesting.
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Old 11-13-2010, 05:57 PM   #14
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Re: A Republican president who reduced the deficit

FWIW, it's actually going up the most under obama. $3 trillion + and counting in less than 2 years.

the president submits a budget. conress passes the budget.

clinton never, not once, submitted a budget that actually balanced. with a dem controlled congress he had deficits. with a GOP controlled congress he technically had surpluses, though it wasn't really true. accounting tricks that didn't account for all the spending, if it had all been covered we were still in deficit.

modern history seems to show that our money & rights tend to get the least damaged when one party has the white house & the other has at least one body of congress.
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Even if it was, which it wasn't (see Q's link), what does that matter?

Regardless of what went on in Clinton's presidency, it doesn't change the fact that in my life time our national debt went up the most under Republican presidents. This includes Regan, who is the poster boy for conservatives.

I'm just wondering what peoples' thought are on this. All this talk nowadays from conservatives about reducing the deficit - if they've only increased my whole life, why should I believe they're gonna lower it now?

BTW, thanks a lot for that link Q, very interesting.
I'm not defending the Republicans. I was just noting the hypocrisy of this thread. If you'll actually read the link I posted it notes that you can go to the Treasury's website to download the data that shows that the debt was never reduced.
Reagan was a poster boy for conservatives but didn't walk the walk once in office.
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