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Old 01-26-2014, 09:37 AM   #16
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Re: Sea sick?

Curious, got a link for those earplugs? I usually take kwells before I dive. It's super cheap on amazon.
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:41 AM   #17
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http://www.leisurepro.com/p-jblhs/jb...eal-aqua-plugs

Sports chalet carries them too. Speaking of kwells, if anyone wants some I have two boxes unopened if you want to them. Bought from the land down under.
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Old 01-26-2014, 11:13 AM   #18
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http://www.leisurepro.com/p-jblhs/jb...eal-aqua-plugs

Sports chalet carries them too. Speaking of kwells, if anyone wants some I have two boxes unopened if you want to them. Bought from the land down under.
I'll try one! No kind of surge or eel grass or anything can get me sea sick when I'm in the water but put me on a boat and if it stops moving within literally 30 seconds I'm instantly drenched in sweat and so nauseous I'm too weak to swim or stand like I had food poisoning. I've often been the only guy sick on boats of 50+ people.

1 meclizine (bonine) the night before and 1/3 of one an hour before and I'm fine but I'm not as social. A full pill & I'm drowsy like I don't really want to do anything.

But hell, if you guys can dive on kwells it must be way less drowsy then meclizine and I just need a little edge, something that keeps it from getting to the point of becoming a downward spiral.
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Old 01-26-2014, 11:41 AM   #19
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Yeah someone once wrote getting doped up on Bonnie makes them drowsy between pukes. That's so true
All yours Anthony, pm your addy and I will drop it in post tomorrow. Was already planning a trip there anyways
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Yeah someone once wrote getting doped up on Bonnie makes them drowsy between pukes. That's so true
All yours Anthony, pm your addy and I will drop it in post tomorrow. Was already planning a trip there anyways
I'll send you my address but give it to me next time we dive. All I need is one pill to see if it works for me.
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Thanks for the info, I don't get seasick everytime. But if the boat stops and is rocking or I look down while tying a knot or something, then it's game over. I've gotten sick while diving too, when the surge is moving me underwater and then the swell has me bobbing at the surface.
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Old 01-28-2014, 09:37 AM   #22
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Thanks for the info, I don't get seasick everytime. But if the boat stops and is rocking or I look down while tying a knot or something, then it's game over. I've gotten sick while diving too, when the surge is moving me underwater and then the swell has me bobbing at the surface.
Just from reading this, I know you have mentally lost the battle. Seasickness is mostly mind over matter. If you KNOW you will get sick under certain circumstances, then you WILL when those circumstances happening. It's because if you realize that they are in play, you will start to worry about it, and the only thing on your mind will be about getting sick. It's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. How do I know this? I used to get queezy when I was younger, pretty much every trip out. Nowadays, I could go in the nastiest conditions, no medication, just knowing in my mind that I WILL NOT get sick, because I DON'T get sick. And, I don't...
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Re: Sea sick?

~~ "Mind over matter" Well hell, there is the answer!


~~ The only method that works for me, is taking the Dramamine (or whatever) several hours before I get up in the morning, so I can sleep off the lethargy, then as the morning progresses, I become more and more alert with minimal sea sickness.
~~~ THIS actually works.
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:36 PM   #24
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Just from reading this, I know you have mentally lost the battle. Seasickness is mostly mind over matter. If you KNOW you will get sick under certain circumstances, then you WILL when those circumstances happening. It's because if you realize that they are in play, you will start to worry about it, and the only thing on your mind will be about getting sick. It's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. How do I know this? I used to get queezy when I was younger, pretty much every trip out. Nowadays, I could go in the nastiest conditions, no medication, just knowing in my mind that I WILL NOT get sick, because I DON'T get sick. And, I don't...
Ah I wouldn't go so far as to say I've lost the battle. I am aware that some conditions/actions can trigger the symptoms, that doesn't mean I don't try to fight it. I understand that the more I fight it, the better I'll get, but until then, I'll take preventative medicine to reduce the risk.
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With sudden change like that you should really go see and ear, nose and throat specialist. While your problem might have some mental components now, it didn't start off that way. Something is wrong. As for medication, I avoid it when possible due to side effects, but ginger root pills are scientifically proven to work. I use them every time I go out and I never have any problems.
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Ah I wouldn't go so far as to say I've lost the battle. I am aware that some conditions/actions can trigger the symptoms, that doesn't mean I don't try to fight it. I understand that the more I fight it, the better I'll get, but until then, I'll take preventative medicine to reduce the risk.
I didn't say you lost the war...

And PS, I think you missed my point... You gave yourself a definitive set of circumstances in which you will get sick. That is the worst thing you can do... You said, "If X, Y, Z happen then it's GAME OVER"... You KNOW in your head that when X,Y,Z happen you WILL get sick... You said it yourself. Again, you've committed yourself to a self-fulfilling prophecy...

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I didn't say you lost the war...

And PS, I think you missed my point... You gave yourself a definitive set of circumstances in which you will get sick. That is the worst thing you can do... You said, "If X, Y, Z happen then it's GAME OVER"... You KNOW in your head that when X,Y,Z happen you WILL get sick... You said it yourself. Again, you've committed yourself to a self-fulfilling prophecy...
Ya, I probably shouldn't have said game over cause it's not like it's a guaranteed thing and I think I could eventually learn to be ok in those situations. How'd you get over your queasiness? Any tips would be more than welcome.
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With sudden change like that you should really go see and ear, nose and throat specialist. While your problem might have some mental components now, it didn't start off that way. Something is wrong. As for medication, I avoid it when possible due to side effects, but ginger root pills are scientifically proven to work. I use them every time I go out and I never have any problems.
Often times inner ear problems related to nausea/balance can be fixed by performing the Epley Maneuver to one or both ears. It is harmless to perform, my doctor performed it on me, it didn't take so she taught me how to do it myself and had me do it at home a couple times on both sides. It worked and now I don't get dizzy at work when I look down.

Here's a video of how to perform it: Epley's maneuver - YouTube you may not notice it if you have your sound off but in the final position the patient's head is facing the floor, you just can't see that because her hair is in the way.
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Ya, I probably shouldn't have said game over cause it's not like it's a guaranteed thing and I think I could eventually learn to be ok in those situations. How'd you get over your queasiness? Any tips would be more than welcome.
For the most part, you just have to keep going. Take Dramamine on rough days, but when you have calm days, don't take anything (you don't NEED it, remember?). Build up your tolerance... Prove to yourself that you don't get sick on glassy calm days, then 1 foot seas, then 2 foot seas, 3 foot, etc... Do this all without Dramamine or like drug. This will slowly build mental toughness and give you the edge you need...

I still have dozens and dozens of different people that go with me every year and here are the rules\tips that I employ:

<> Nobody is allowed to talk about sea sickness on the boat or before the trip. I don't care about their story. We can talk about it when we get back to the dock. You would be surprised how effective this is. I literally tell them to shut up and talk about something else.
<> Wind in the face helps. People who are prone to seasickness should always keep a stiff breeze in their face.
<> When we are trolling, running, I give sea-sick prone people tasks which involve looking for things on the horizon. So, if I am trolling, I tell them to look for birds and weedlines. If we are diving and moving from spot to spot, I tell them to look for sea turtles (they usually hover over live bottom in our area). The idea is that you don't want them looking at the floor. You want them focused on something stable (clouds, horizon, other boats, etc).
<> Stomach should be settled. Don't leave the dock on an empty stomach where you might have that "sick" feeling from being hungry. Get a salty breakfast (not sweet).
<> This is going to sound counter intuitive to most, but a soda seems to go down easier than water for many people. Don't drink so much water that is sloshes around in your stomach with that full feeling.
<> Don't take anything that can upset your stomach or give you the shits (adderal, red bull, etc).
<> No smoking on my boat. Smoke will get non-smokers sick.
<> Certain tasks are tougher. For instance, I would never let a sea sick person cut bait where there is a smell involved. Just too much for them to handle.
<> Don't have tasks that require a lot of looking down. For instance, if you must eat sandwiches, have some made before you leave the dock. Don't have a sea-sick person digging through a cooler for bread, meat, mustard, etc.
<> Keep fried chicken and potato chips on the boat... Eat a piece of fried chicken the second you feel queezy. Fried chicken is magical...
<> If you sense someone getting queezy (they usually stop speaking), then leave them alone. Don't ask them how they feel. You already know how they feel. Don't let anyone else ask them how they feel. Just assign them a task that requires them to put their focus on something stable. Don't tell them what you are doing.
<> When moving about slowly, spend little time in a beam sea. Like when you are getting ready with your gear, either have the boat quartering into the sea or pointed straight down sea. Straight down sea is the most stable platform.

I'll post some more tips as I think about them...
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Oh yeah, one more thing... Sea-sickness can be serious... I had a guy go with me a couple of years ago. It was in January out of LWI, overcast, windy, and cool (maybe 60 degrees). He got sick and went to the front of the boat to sleep it off. We had only been on the water maybe an hour. He was speaking very weird and crab clawed. I had never seen this before and thought he had a stroke. We came back in to the inlet and force fed him Gatorade on the way back. Turns out he was severely dehydrated. Being that we hadn't seen the sun all day, not working hard, etc, dehydration was the last thing that crossed my mind. He did puke over the side, but it wasn't even that much. I thought it was pretty minor.

If this every happens to someone on your boat, it is SERIOUS and can be FATAL, and should be addressed immediately.
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