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09-21-2016, 01:19 PM | #16 |
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Re: Hog Fish Rule In Affect Jan 1st
That sounds good if you say it fast and it may be true but what facts do you have to base that on? That is the real problem. Fish stocks may be fine or in tragic shape.... who knows? Until you guys get some accountability measures in place and some viable allowable catch set you are an endangered species as a commercial fisherman. Recreational spearos better get on board as well as you don't want the fishery managers guessing what you are harvesting either. Nobody is immune from fishery mismanagement.... especially if it was caused by under management over a long period of time.
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09-22-2016, 05:37 AM | #17 |
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09-25-2016, 05:56 PM | #18 |
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These changes are only in effect for Federal Waters, and have not been approved yet by Secretary of Commerce (info on this is listed on MyFWC website). It will be interesting to see if Florida matches the regulations, or if they change the current regulations.
I've always thought a 3 fish at 15" is a fair recreational limit. And a closed season is a bad idea for tourism. I know a lot of spear fisherman from colder climates that come down in the winter for vacations. Even though the viz isn't great by Florida standards, its still better than the best days up north. Grouper is closed, now hogfish is closed... These people may not come down... |
09-25-2016, 07:36 PM | #19 | |
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09-25-2016, 07:51 PM | #20 | |
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09-25-2016, 10:40 PM | #21 | ||
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We saw this coming for years. People shot more that they can eat, just to feel good about themself or brag on FB. The issue is that regulator don't to anything proactive to protect fisheries, it's mostly reactive after the fact and go so hard that it's ridiculous. It's not worth it for a rec or commercial to go out a burn gas for a day to catch one hog.
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09-25-2016, 10:44 PM | #22 | |
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But if you want to argue about taxes and who pays what, my dad pays about 30 percent income tax because he is that good at shooting fish and catching lobster. I will too once I graduate school and have my unlimited tonnage license and pilotage license. I agree with everything else you have said.
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09-25-2016, 10:52 PM | #23 |
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The FWC will decide if they want to have similar requirements, but for now, yes. Expect change in the gulf as well.
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09-25-2016, 11:44 PM | #24 | |
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Wrong attitude buddy...Your "50k" license is only something other fisherman would be willing to pay you for it. The value will adjust each time they change the fishing rules. The original cost of the permits were minor from the gov. Commercial guys provide a service....they allow local restaurants and such to provide high quality local fish. They also allow exporting of the fish to provide revenue to local communities when their supply exceeds the demand. I'd love to see recreational guys be allowed to sell fish to fish houses on a case by case basis. It would drive the prices down on fish since rec guys are willing to fish at a loss.
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09-25-2016, 11:48 PM | #25 |
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Re: Hog Fish Rule In Affect Jan 1st
And expect everyone to be more motivated to making lion fish the replacement on the menus. I'd love to see those little bastards at 5.50/lb and commercial divers crying because rec guys shot them all already.
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09-26-2016, 12:10 AM | #26 | |
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I'm sorry you guys all think I'm a big bad commercial diver who shoots all of "your fish", but in reality that is not who I am, or what I'm about. I've passed up fish that many of you would shoot in a heart beat because I actually respect the ocean and know how to manage the spots I fish, I know when enough is enough. I was raised by a marine biologist who worked for NOAA, and a commercial diver, I see things from both sides. I want to be able to take my son out one day and see him shoot his first fish just like my dad did. Growing up all I wanted to do was what I love for a living, but as time has gone on I have realized that isn't going to happen. So while my dreams are literally being crushed, your bag limit is lower. There are only so many commercial divers on the east coast/keys and many more rec guys, so yes, I DO think commercial divers that paid for license and sell fish to local restaurants and fish markets for there lively hood should be able to get more fish. Sorry everyone seems to disagree.
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09-26-2016, 12:13 AM | #27 |
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But hey, while the haters are all out.....
Who needs hog fish when you can get blacks like these? 70-130 pounds
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09-26-2016, 05:06 AM | #28 |
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I shit my wetsuit when i see a 30lb black. I'd blackout on the spot if I swam up to a 130 or more likely I wouldn't look twice at it cause my brain would just instantly say "Jewfish"
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09-26-2016, 08:01 AM | #29 |
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09-27-2016, 09:22 AM | #30 |
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Federal guys like to be harsh on new restrictions to be on the safe side. I'm sure it will loosen up over time.
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